From: "Gary Britt" 

There is no difference between you getting money from your client and then
giving it versus you cutting out the middle man and just directing your
client where to give the money directly.  You can't be that stupid to
seriously maintain there is a difference.

Also, I'm still waiting for some criminal violation to be found in all this
giving.  So far its seems clear Abramhoff was a person of low moral
standards on occasion.  He is charged with plain old fraud for millions
against a bank.  That doesn't have anything to do with making illegal
contributions to any law maker.

Harry Reid was a big beneficiary of Abramhoff cash.  It went to many democraps.

I don't hate democraps.  Hate implies an irrational dislike.  My dislike
and disdain for the far left wing power mad national democrapic leadership
pretending to be that which they know they are not is quite rationally
based.  They are fundamentally dishonest at their cores, because before
they open their mouths they do so from a point of view designed and
intended to hide who they really are, hide what they really believe, and to
harm the country as a whole all just so they can have the power and money
they could not otherwise earn based upon their own skills, industry, and
talent for anything other than lying and buying votes with other people's
money.  They preach rules for others they do not wish applied to
themselves.  They preach the politics of theft, greed, and envy.  They rule
by seeking to bring out the worst qualities in every person to be
manipulated for their own power and personal wealth.  They are quite happy
to advocate and work for the destruction of our country, its culture, and
its beliefs if by so doing they can attain or maintain power.  They do all
these things intentionally, knowingly, and with malice towards all but
their own selfish desires.

Other than that I think they are really peachy.

Gary

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:443440cf$1{at}w3....
> I've seen. And I know enough to realize that if I give my money that it is
> different from my client giving money. It is a complicated situation but
> like or not his money went to republicans. Those clients appear to have
> increased money to Republicans and in some cases decreased money to
> democrats.. Say he participated equally is amusing.
>
>
> As I said before you appear to have an absolute hatred of democrats. Based
> on your words and your excuses for the actions of various republicans.
>
> Statements like "Just a bunch of corrupt democraps."  Are
there corrupt
> Democrats Sure. And it would seem a LOT of corrupt Republicans.
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
> news:44343811$1{at}w3....
> > Its not necessary for one without eyes to feel sorry for one they
> > mistakenly
> > think is blind.  There is no difference between Abramhoff money and
> > Abramhoff client money.  Abramhoff directed the money in either case.
> > Open
> > your eyes and stop dancing on the head of pins.  Abramhoff participated
> > equally in bribing/influencing as many politicians of both parties as he
> > could.
> >
> > So far the only thing he's being tried for that I've seen has nothing to
> > do
> > with lobbying, but rather fraudulent representations to dupe a bank into
> > loaning 60 million dollars on something they otherwise wouldn't have
> > loaned
> > money on.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> > news:4433e602{at}w3....
> >> About as accurate as your prior statement " Just a bunch
of corrupt
> >> democraps.".
> >>
> >>
> >> You might want to actually look at Abramhoff. ALL of his personal
> >> contributions were to Republicans. His clients moneys were split
between
> >> parties. Look into the donations from before they were his clients and
> >> compare to after,  He was very active in the Republican party.
> >>
> >> Yes Gary we are well aware of your hatred of democrats. Pity it blinds
> >> you
> >> so much. I actually feel sorry for you.
> >>
> >> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
> >> news:44333573{at}w3....
> >> > Any proof they are part of a joint enterprise acting together as
> >> > co-conspirators in corruption?  As many democraps as repubs took
> >> > abramhoff/client money.  Abramhoff has nothing to say about Delay,
even
> >> > though he's cooperating.  Delay had a couple bad former staffers.
> > That's
> >> > why they are former staffers perhaps.
> >> >
> >> > The only corrupt acting together as co-conspirators that I see are
the
> >> > public heads of the national democrapic party.  They
would sell their
> >> > souls
> >> > and their mothers for power.  That is their only principle and I
> >> > despise
> >> > them more for lying about and hiding who and what they are in a
manner
> >> > only
> >> > done by democraps.
> >> >
> >> > Gary
> >> >
> >> > "Robert G Lewis" 
wrote in message
> >> > news:4432dd84{at}w3....
> >> >> So why have two of Delay's former staff members
plead guilty, along
> > with
> >> >> Duke Cunningham etc.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think any of those are democrats.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:4432d9bf$1{at}w3....
> >> >> > There is no corrupt republican machine.  Just a
bunch of corrupt
> >> >> > democraps.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Gary
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Cuccia"
 wrote in message
> >> >> > news:5fb532turvg0jo615iobusturak1oja848{at}4ax.com...
> >> >> >> On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 11:55:13 -0400,
"Mark" 
> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>I don't particularly care for Delay all
that much Monte. I said
at
> > the
> >> >> >>>time
> >> >> >>>that I didn't think it fair that he had
to step down as majority
> >> >> >>>leader
> >> >> >>>upon
> >> >> >>>indictment, not conviction and I still
feel that way.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>There's obviously no love lost between
Earle and Delay, and Earle
> > won
> >> >> >>>this
> >> >> >>>battle. Time will tell, but I have a
feeling that Delay won't be
> >> >> >>>convicted
> >> >> >>>of anything.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Delay wouldn't be quitting if one or another of the
investigations
> >> >> >> into the corrupt Republican political
machine wasn't getting
very,
> >> >> >> very close.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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