From: Adam 

George J. Sherwood wrote:
> Adam wrote:
>
>> Eee's a pol mate. I'd hate to think pols would need to be convicted in a
>> democracy.
>
> Seems they should have to be before you start talking about their guilt in
> crimes of corruption.  It is a good thing your politicians are so perfect
> in the UK.  I would hate to think your foreign service people talking about
> anti-corruptions drives without being 100% perfect.
>

Gosh no ours out mired right now in a "Cash for Titles" scandal.
However nothing is "proven" & yet oddly our pols seem to
think that the appearance of corrpution is serious even where this is only
smoke & no fire yet proven.

>
>> Interesting that you think it's OK to bang people up w/o trial, proof or
>> even due process & yet you seem to think that a pol should get all that
>> in spades before he can be even judged by public opinion.
>> I'm quite happy to have either approach so long as there is some
>> consistency.
>
> Please show me where I have said this is okay.  He is being judged by public
> opinion. IMO, this is why he is getting out, I really don't know what he is
> or isn't guilty of yet.
>

Are you in favour of Padilla being banged up w/o charge, term or any of the
other things the English at least fought for? How about seizing people off
the streets of Italy or Germany? You seem to think that is OK even without
proof being put in front of a court.


>> In fact the executive banging up pols for an indeterminate term w/o
>> trial, proof or due process is something many would welcome but on the
>> off chance you think that's a bit harsh (& possibly even against the
>> legal & moral traditions of your country) then extending due process etc
>> to accused terrorists would be second best.
>
> Terrorist are being treated IAW with the accords that apply to them.


Chuckle & So are pols such as Mr Delay. He lived via unproven
allegations & now he's ying by them. Persoanally I'd love to see the
charges proven in a court & then a damn great prison sentence n a high
security pen.

Possibly they could waterboard him for the information or set some dogs on
him or something like that. It's not like he could object now is it?

>  If you
> want to apply to them all the rights of a British citizen then are welcome
> to do so.

Pols set the rules for the rest of us. Thus they have to aspire to a higher
std than the rest of us. Heck Clinton was crippled by unfounded allegations
& a small affair with a woman. I take it you objected just as much then
even though this is much more serious.

Adam

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