From: Adam 

Gary Wiltshire wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 06:16:34 -0400, Adam 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary Wiltshire wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:17:01 -0500, Adam field.near the bridge">
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Robert Comer wrote:
>>>>>> The constitution only counted if you were white.
No change there
>>>>>> then.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not what it's supposed to be.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CHuckle. Yeah & it was written by those enjoying the
fruits of slavery,
>>>> men are equal....liberty....etc....but obviously not the slaves....
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>  Slaves were not considered to be human beings at the time, terrible
>>> from our viewpoint certainly, but one share by your own country
>>> during its own history.
>>>  --Gary Wiltshire
>>
>> We made no such silly official statements wrt liberty & the pursuit of
>> happiness & all men being equal etc.
>
> Do you know just what volumes about your own mentality regarding
> humanity you just uttered.

Nope it's a statement of reality. Get born to rich powerful parents
somewhere rich & powerful & you're not the same as someone born
poor & powerless somewhere poor & powerless. For one thing your
life expectancy is radically different.

Huge numbers of african kids die before their 5th birthday. Is this equality?

The founding fathers themselves did not believe it as (b) they really meant
men & not women & (b) white men & (c) white men with property.

>>
>> If you were a black briton of the period (& there were more than you
>> might imagine) then you were by definition not a slave.
>
> If you were a black northerner of the period then you were by definition
> not a slave either.  Don't try and pretend that black briton was a fully
> accepted member of white British society, either -- and not so long ago
> it was YOUR society that invented the phrase "Pakibashing."
>>

Bollox. In that period people in the north kept slaves. It was only later
that the northerners started to get a bit shirty about it. Heck your
Fugitive Slave Law made it such that slaves only became free when they'
actually made it into Canada.


>> Remember Rule Britannia came out in 1740 & contains the line:
>>
>> "Britons never, never, never shall be slaves"
>
> There is YOU giving the lie to the above claim "we made no such
silly.."

We were not going to be slaves. Doesn't mean that all men are equal &
everyone has some putative right to liberty, the pursuit of happpiness
& the rest of the bollox.

Adam

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