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to: MICHAEL GRANT
from: PETER COGGON
date: 2005-12-23 18:12:00
subject: January Election [1/2]

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Hello Michael;

 -=> Quoting Michael Grant to Peter Coggon <=-

 MG> 16 Dec 05 20:51, you wrote to ALL:
 
 MG>> It will be the nastiest, most negative campaign that we have ever
 MG>> seen in Canada.

 MG> So far, this hasn't happened, but I have a feeling it'll get really
 MG> nasty in January.

  Excuse me, but you are replying above to your own text.   

  My only comment on elections and politicians is that it is a dirty
business carried on by and allowed by citizens of every country.
 
 MG>> The Bloc will sweep most of Quebec.

  They usually do.   I wonder what would happen if other provinces
had their own self-interest partys in Ottawa....they all would sweep
their own provinces.   That would mean a minority government, and we
all could vote whether or not to stay in Canada.  A vote every 5 years.
Only in Canada.
 
 PC>   When one mentions the "BLOC"...one wonders just how they clasify
 PC> as a National Party, when they are only in Quebec .... Only interested
 PC> in Quebec...and only want to separate Quebec from Canada???? huh???

 MG> Mostly it's a protest vote, however. Most Quebecers who vote for the
 MG> Bloc don't really want to seperate from Canada. They just see the other
 MG> parties as not really serving their interests.

  Thats okay, but this bunch of misfits, is only just but not crossing
the line of a treason act.    Even the old reform partys in Upper and Lower
Canada never went this far.   When the Rebellions happened, the results
were change...but to be threathened every 5 years with this separation
stuff...I want to vote too.
 
 PC> How only in CANADA can rebs be represented by a political party.

 MG> What's the point to a political party on the federal level that
 MG> doesn't really believe in the federation, nor wants to form a
 MG> government? I think someone on the CBC got it right when they said,
 MG> "They just want to throw a monkey wrench into the works".

  Me too... I have lots of Crappie Tire money saved, that I will give to
them to setup their currency.
 
 MG>> The Liberals will sweep most of Ontario.

 MG>> Depending on where the lost Conservative seats go to, there will
 MG>> be a minority or small majority Liberal government. If most lost
 MG>> Conservative seats go to the NDP, it will be a Liberal minority.
 MG>> If the Liberals pick them up, they will win a majority.
 
 PC>    You are mostlikely right ... Anyway it looks like Harper isn't sure
 PC> of himself, and that comerical on the TV is just funny to watch.

 MG> "No passion", was the comment from the hosts of CBC Sunday. It fits
 MG> Harper to a "T".
 
 PC> Wheres my BEER and POPCORN .... What a dumb thing to argue over.
 PC> All they have to do is checkout the food bank, and see the same folks
 PC> there...after going to the beer store to cash the government cheque.

 MG> None of them want to admit it, because it's not "politically
correct",
 MG> but the fact is that there is some truth to that "beer and popcorn"
 MG> statement.

   I would have been correct.  The problem with the public is a short
memory span,and they know darn well the "Beer and Popcorn" comment is
right.  It was the media as usual fanning the flames. Thats all I ever
heard.
 
 PC> PC or LIBS are big business supported.

 MG> Not PC... Conservative. The PC's are still around, on the fringes.
 MG> It's called the Progressive Canada Party now. They're basically
 MG> presenting themselves as a "not so right-leaning"
alternative to the
 MG> Conservatives. 
 MG> I agree that both are supported by big business, but the Conservatives
 MG> moreso, and more supported by big oil and USA interests, where the
 MG> Liberals are more supported by the traditional central Canadian
 MG> corporations. Both do lots of favors for their supporters, but in my
 MG> lifetime, the conservative parties have always made far more and much
 MG> larger tax concessions to big corporations, and usually at the expense
 MG> of the middle and lower classes. 
 MG> There is a general difference in philosophy in operation when
 MG> comparing the two parties. The Conservatives basically believe that
 MG> it's best to look after business, and keep government out of the mix.
 MG> They believe in "trickle down" economics... that the
businesses in turn
 MG> will take care of the common man. 
 MG> The Liberals on the other hand, while taking care of their supporters
 MG> with measures like government programs, grants and subsidies, tend not
 MG> to trust corporations to take care of the general population, and see a

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