EC>>> She did not want you to be moderator at that time,
 EC>>> and she blamed you for the whole mess!

->> ->> And that is a lie on your part.

 EC>> That is what you always fall back on, even though her
 EC>> comments to you AT THAT TIME clearly expressed her opinion
 EC>> of you.  I quoted some of them for you, but you are so
 EC>> eager to get your favorite word in (even though the use of
 EC>> it is driving Wilson away) that you didn't even notice.

->> I saw it

 EC> Then you know that what I said was true, and you know that
 EC> what you said was a lie.  You tried to disguise your lie by
 EC> posting a comment she made SIX MONTHS EARLIER.

 I nominated her for moderator before all the rest happened. What
 you are now talking about was SIX MONTHS LATER.

 EC>> Six months EARLIER she had said that she was a worse choice
 EC>> than you. although she did not say she believed that ANY
 EC>> moderator was needed and she did not say that she wanted
 EC>> YOU as moderator.

->> So she was uncertain, but she was certain that I was the better
->> choice.

 EC> Lofaso suggested her (not you, as you claimed), you

 Lofaso told her to go ahead and accept the position. I had
 already nominated her. Look at the dates on the msgs again.

 EC> followed him, and she said no.  She added that IF there was
 EC> a threat (later she realized there wasn't) and IF a

 Yet she later became the co-moderator. She never *REALIZED*
 anything, she may have believed it, but to realize it what she
 realized had to be true. It wasn't, the threat was real.

 EC> moderator were needed at all (another "if" that she did not
 EC> express agreement with), she would RATHER it be you THAN
 EC> HER.

 BINGO!

 EC> At first you might have simply been confused or
 EC> suffering from a failing memory, but now that you have
 EC> re-read the old messages you KNOW that what you said was
 EC> false, and yet you still hold to it.

 No, Earl, after you have seen the msgs, and now know I nominated
 her for moderator on Jan 10, which was before Lee said anything
 about it, before Roger elisted the echo.

 I sent you a msg on May 7, in which I reposted the thread to
 you. Lee's msg to Cindy was Jan 22, 2007. Cindy's msgs were Jan
 23. My msg nominating her was Jan 10, 2007.

 So, we know you saw it. Do we conclude you are working overtime
 to remain ignorant, or outright lying? Take your choice. Neither
 is complimentary to you.

 EC> Her words to you again: "This echo was very pleasant until
 ...
 EC> this moderator mess. YOU started it. Period."

 All of which was well after I nominated her on Jan 10, and after
 she said I would be a better moderator on Jan 23.

 ...

 EC> If you want to debate so badly why don't you take courses
 EC> in debate and learn how to do it without flame baiting

 Since you evidently don't want to debate at all, the above is
 just more flame baiting from you.

 ...

 EC> True then, and truer today.  Reasoning with you is futile,
 EC> and you get laughed at by all.  Except Wilson.

 You never did read the thread, now did you? There were only two
 people in the echo who opposed the idea of a moderator, Roger
 and Cindy. And they became moderator and co-moderator
 respecively. Several others chimed in supporting my suggestion.

 Jim Holsonback called Cindy "scatterbrained". Her belief that
 having a moderator caused people like you to come in and trash
 the echo was that sort of scatterbrained nonsense. She somehow
 thought people like you could sense across the ether that you
 were being talked about, and as long as we didn't talk about you
 then you would not know we were there. It's the head in the sand
 philosophy.

 Yet they both came around to having a moderator in the end, now
 didn't they.

 You don't laugh at me, you run around frantically trying to find
 some way to distract and distort because you know I am right and
 you are wrong. Doesn't work though, does it. I keep coming back
 on focus and catching you out.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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