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to: John Beckett
from: Adam
date: 2006-04-11 10:34:34
subject: Re: More bad news for ID

From: Adam 

John Beckett wrote:
> "Geo"  wrote in message
news::
>> Judging simply by observation it would appear that over time the physical
>> laws promote complexity.
>
> Indeed, and there are many in and around the scientific community who say
> that this observation is evidence for the existence of a God (although a
> God that is very different from the hands-on I'm-watching-everything
> creator that many religious practioners seem to expect).
>
> John
>

I'm not at all sure that physical laws promote complexity. Chaos promotes
complexitty & the physical laws promote order.

e.g. a storm system is chaotic but the more chaotic it is, the more ordered
it becomes e.g. a hurricane & a tornado are both more ordered at a
macro scale than a diffuse weather front.

It's the layers of chaos/order/chaos/order from particles simply deciding
to exist to then being trapped in valence belts (all those donut shapes
etc) by electro-atomic forces right up to the sun & planets being round
& travelling in predefined orbits (round the galaxy & round the sun
(in the case of the planets)) etc.

Then the galaxies themselves have ordered shapes even thoough they were
created out of chaos etc.

In terms of religion, were one to be more of a believer in the order vs
chaos religions then they could take some solace from the shape of things.

Adam

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