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to: William Mcbrine
from: James Bradley
date: 2004-02-21 12:17:00
subject: Re: New MM/Linux user!!!

-=> WILLIAM MCBRINE wrote to JAMES BRADLEY <=-
 -=> James Bradley wrote to William McBrine <=-

 JB> I'm resisting the temptation to `dance' just yet. This is the first
 WM> Worked fine. :-)

Now, I need the right hip to follow the left...

 WM> That's not in any way a Red Hat port. Where did you get that idea? 

Um... A lack of knowledge.  The rest I recognized to be
other *NIX's, or
gathered they were for a Motorola CPU... QNX was one I never heard before, and
just assumed the "compiled on R..." stood for Red.

 WM> RPMs might be more apt, but unfortunately there are none for 0.46 (at
 WM> least, none that I know of). I usedto have some contributors who built
 WM> them, but they haven't shown up lately.

Just the same, the `gunzip -h' gave me something else to read/expand my mind
with.  If I ever learn to bundle a good RPM, you'll
be the first to know. Don't hold your breath though.

 WM> But if you really want a binary that's optimized for your system, you
 WM> should buildfrom source. :-)

Any Day Now.  

 WM> BTW, don't run as root. Create a regular user account, use that, and

I'm doing so much configuring and experimenting that root makes more sense
right now. I know better, but I'm a little too bombastic to give a hoot. Once I
upgrade the OS, I will not be as reckless. Thanks for the thump-on-the-head
though!

 JB> and then, the alias I've defined seems inactive.

 WM> I'm not sure what you mean here. But if you want to make an icon on
 WM> your desktop from which tolaunch it, you can. The target would just
 WM> have to be something like "xterm -e mm", instead of only
"mm".

Ah... I was using an open xterm, then typing the full `./mm-linux-i386elf'. I
inserted an alias for it, ("mm=/root/mm-linux...") but that doesn't seem to
survive the X server startup. (I know... "Why in `/root'?" Which
leads me to:)

Should I eventually make the install off of `/mmail-0.46' or should it be
nested somewhere else?

 JB> Where do I find the docs/FAQ/HOWTO/man/info files?
 WM> In the source archive. This is how you'd install it:

Which would explain why I couldn't find them. Silly me. 

 WM>  [download mmail-0.46.tar.gz]
 WM>  tar zxvf mmail-0.46.tar.gz
 WM>  cd mmail-0.46
 WM>  make
 WM>  make install

 WM> Then you can read the man page by typing "man mm", and the rest by
 WM> reading the various files in mmail-0.46. (This is all pretty standard
 WM> for Linux.)

For some reason, `make' wasn't installed, and I had to RPM it from another
distro. Still, no online docs exist here for make or (dep)mode(probe), so I'm a
little unilluminated so far. I'm getting the notion that Mandrake might expect
their users to use RPMs, and `linuxconf' exclusively.

 WM> If for some reason you can't compile it, you'll still have to get the
 WM> documentation from the source archive. Unlike the DOS/Win32/etc.
 WM> versions, the binaries for Linux and Unix are distributed without docs.

No doubt to keep us newbies in the dark? (Not sure I *want* an answer to that.
|-)

 WM> (The exceptions are the RPMand DEB packages.) My expectation is that
 WM> most Unix users will compile it themselves.

 WM> Of course, the bulk of the documentation is the same across all
 WM> platforms. The man page is "mm.txt" in the Win32 archive
you already
 WM> have. :-)

Cheers!



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