TIP: Click on subject to list as thread! ANSI
echo: barktopus
to: Gary Britt
from: Robert G Lewis
date: 2006-04-15 12:16:16
subject: Re: What a wonderful fireguard

From: "Robert G Lewis" 

http://www.dior.whs.mil/mmid/military/miltop.htm

"Gary Britt"  wrote in message news:444129c3{at}w3....
> There are thousands of Generals Bob.  Almost 2000 active duty generals,
> and must be thousands more retired.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:44411aec$1{at}w3....
>> Rumsfeld also said there are thousands of generals/admirals, which I know
>> is exaggerated to say the least, and I stopped listening to him after
>> that.....
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:44411a0a{at}w3....
>>> Generals brings us back to the change adverse whiners and incompetents
>>> and passed over for promotion people who are speaking out to hawk books
>>> and to promote their feelings against the military reformation that Don
>>> Rumsfeld has been pushing since coming into office.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:443ffe69{at}w3....
>>>> So none of the Generals have any experience either?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1
>>>>
>>>> Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding Rumsfeld step down,
>>>> breaking a long tradition of the military steering clear
of politics.
>>>>
>>>> "We have nothing to gain by this. There's no
political agenda at all,"
>>>> Batiste said. "We've been loyal subordinates. This is all about
>>>> soldiers - service men and women - and their families."
>>>>
>>>> Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. He
>>>> retired from the military in November 2005, passing up a
third star and
>>>> a chance to be second in command in Iraq.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
>>>>> It doesn't say anything in there about having any defense
>>>>> department/military operations and strategy expertise
now does it.
>>>>> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>>>>>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the Lexington
Institute your cup of
>>>>>> tea. It's not the liberals that are turning
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Lexington Institute believes in limiting the
role of the federal
>>>>>> government to those functions explicitly stated or
implicitly defined
>>>>>> by the Constitution. The Institute therefore
actively opposes the
>>>>>> unnecessary intrusion of the federal government
into the commerce and
>>>>>> culture of the nation, and strives to find nongovernmental,
>>>>>> market-based solutions to public-policy
challenges. We believe a
>>>>>> dynamic private sector is the greatest engine for
social progress and
>>>>>> economic prosperity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot better
than Loren Thompson
>>>>>>>and the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a general thinks a policy is so wrong that
it puts his troops in
>>>>>>> needless and senseless danger, then he should
have the courage of
>>>>>>> his convictions; resign his commission
publicly and make known at
>>>>>>> that time the specific reasons for his resignation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book hawking
and change adverse
>>>>>>> and/or disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the officer
corps soon
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives_a
re_out_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN
1YmNhdA--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military analyst of
the Lexington Institute,
>>>>>>>> told the Christian Science Monitor that
while some of the rancor
>>>>>>>> towards Rumsfeld can be attributed to his
well publicized efforts
>>>>>>>> transform the military, "much of the
officer corps thinks he simply
>>>>>>>> doesn't understand technology or
operations in sufficient depth to
>>>>>>>> grasp the consequences of his policies,
and yet he routinely uses
>>>>>>>> his position to quash dissent."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>> Imagine that Monte has absolutely no
clue of the psychology of
>>>>>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty grudges of
people who don't want their
>>>>>>>>> bureaucracy changed. Anyone with a
brain whose ever worked in a
>>>>>>>>> large organization knows full well and
first hand how change
>>>>>>>>> adverse some people can be.  Rumsfeld
has been reforming and
>>>>>>>>> changing the military, its operations,
its budgeting, its
>>>>>>>>> programs, its structure, etc. since
first coming to office.  If he
>>>>>>>>> didn't make a few change adverse
generals upset then THAT would be
>>>>>>>>> something to worry about.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's and 100's
of generals have retired,
>>>>>>>>> been passed over, been pushed out of
the military and only 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>> out of these 100's come forward to
bitch when it is in their own
>>>>>>>>> pecuniary and petty interests to so do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile (i.e.
Monte et al) would consider
>>>>>>>>> these people anything but petty change
adverse, passed over for
>>>>>>>>> promotion, bureaucrats. Seeking
revenge on the guy who isn't as
>>>>>>>>> milk toasty as the incompetent defense
secretary's to whom they
>>>>>>>>> grew accustomed under Clinton.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you have no
defense to these comments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>
news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we crossed the Rhine...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Imagine that neither Victor nor
Mark has a clue about the
>>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that they do --
but find it ideologically
>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
* Origin: Barktopia BBS Site http://HarborWebs.com:8081 (1:379/45)
SEEN-BY: 633/267 270 5030/786
@PATH: 379/45 1 633/267

SOURCE: echomail via fidonet.ozzmosis.com

Email questions or comments to sysop@ipingthereforeiam.com
All parts of this website painstakingly hand-crafted in the U.S.A.!
IPTIA BBS/MUD/Terminal/Game Server List, © 2025 IPTIA Consulting™.