From: "Robert Comer" 

Rumsfeld also said there are thousands of generals/admirals, which I know
is exaggerated to say the least, and I stopped listening to him after
that.....

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Bob Comer


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message news:44411a0a{at}w3....
> Generals brings us back to the change adverse whiners and incompetents and
> passed over for promotion people who are speaking out to hawk books and to
> promote their feelings against the military reformation that Don Rumsfeld
> has been pushing since coming into office.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
news:443ffe69{at}w3....
>> So none of the Generals have any experience either?
>>
>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1
>>
>> Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding Rumsfeld step down,
>> breaking a long tradition of the military steering clear of politics.
>>
>> "We have nothing to gain by this. There's no political agenda
at all,"
>> Batiste said. "We've been loyal subordinates. This is all about
>> soldiers - service men and women - and their families."
>>
>> Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. He
>> retired from the military in November 2005, passing up a third star and a
>> chance to be second in command in Iraq.
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
>>> It doesn't say anything in there about having any defense
>>> department/military operations and strategy expertise now does it.
>>> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>>>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the Lexington Institute
your cup of tea.
>>>> It's not the liberals that are turning
>>>>
>>>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>>>
>>>> The Lexington Institute believes in limiting the role of the federal
>>>> government to those functions explicitly stated or
implicitly defined
>>>> by the Constitution. The Institute therefore actively opposes the
>>>> unnecessary intrusion of the federal government into the
commerce and
>>>> culture of the nation, and strives to find nongovernmental,
>>>> market-based solutions to public-policy challenges. We believe a
>>>> dynamic private sector is the greatest engine for social
progress and
>>>> economic prosperity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot better than
Loren Thompson and
>>>>>the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>>>
>>>>> If a general thinks a policy is so wrong that it puts
his troops in
>>>>> needless and senseless danger, then he should have the
courage of his
>>>>> convictions; resign his commission publicly and make
known at that
>>>>> time the specific reasons for his resignation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book hawking and
change adverse and/or
>>>>> disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the officer corps soon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives_are
_out_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1Y
mNhdA--
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military analyst of the
Lexington Institute,
>>>>>> told the Christian Science Monitor that while some
of the rancor
>>>>>> towards Rumsfeld can be attributed to his well
publicized efforts
>>>>>> transform the military, "much of the officer
corps thinks he simply
>>>>>> doesn't understand technology or operations in
sufficient depth to
>>>>>> grasp the consequences of his policies, and yet he
routinely uses his
>>>>>> position to quash dissent."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>> Imagine that Monte has absolutely no clue of
the psychology of
>>>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty grudges of people
who don't want their
>>>>>>> bureaucracy changed. Anyone with a brain whose
ever worked in a
>>>>>>> large organization knows full well and first
hand how change adverse
>>>>>>> some people can be.  Rumsfeld has been
reforming and changing the
>>>>>>> military, its operations, its budgeting, its
programs, its
>>>>>>> structure, etc. since first coming to office. 
If he didn't make a
>>>>>>> few change adverse generals upset then THAT
would be something to
>>>>>>> worry about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's and 100's of
generals have retired, been
>>>>>>> passed over, been pushed out of the military
and only 4 or 5 out of
>>>>>>> these 100's come forward to bitch when it is
in their own pecuniary
>>>>>>> and petty interests to so do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile (i.e. Monte et al)
would consider these
>>>>>>> people anything but petty change adverse,
passed over for promotion,
>>>>>>> bureaucrats. Seeking revenge on the guy who
isn't as milk toasty as
>>>>>>> the incompetent defense secretary's to whom
they grew accustomed
>>>>>>> under Clinton.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you have no defense
to these comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> "Mark"  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we crossed the Rhine...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Imagine that neither Victor nor Mark has a
clue about the
>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that they do -- but find
it ideologically useful
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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