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to: Gary Britt
from: Rich Gauszka
date: 2006-04-14 15:54:50
subject: Re: What a wonderful fireguard

From: "Rich Gauszka" 

So none of the Generals have any experience either?

 http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1

Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding Rumsfeld step down,
breaking a long tradition of the military steering clear of politics.

"We have nothing to gain by this. There's no political agenda at
all," Batiste said. "We've been loyal subordinates. This is all
about soldiers - service men and women - and their families."

Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. He
retired from the military in November 2005, passing up a third star and a
chance to be second in command in Iraq.


"Gary Britt"  wrote in message news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
> It doesn't say anything in there about having any defense
> department/military operations and strategy expertise now does it.
> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>
> Gary
>
> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the Lexington Institute your cup of tea.
>> It's not the liberals that are turning
>>
>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>
>> The Lexington Institute believes in limiting the role of the federal
>> government to those functions explicitly stated or implicitly defined by
>> the Constitution. The Institute therefore actively opposes the
>> unnecessary intrusion of the federal government into the commerce and
>> culture of the nation, and strives to find nongovernmental, market-based
>> solutions to public-policy challenges. We believe a dynamic private
>> sector is the greatest engine for social progress and economic
>> prosperity.
>>
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot better than Loren Thompson and
>>>the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>
>>> If a general thinks a policy is so wrong that it puts his troops in
>>> needless and senseless danger, then he should have the courage of his
>>> convictions; resign his commission publicly and make known at that time
>>> the specific reasons for his resignation.
>>>
>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book hawking and change adverse and/or
>>> disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the officer corps soon
>>>>
>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives_are_o
ut_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmN
hdA--
>>>>
>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military analyst of the Lexington
Institute, told
>>>> the Christian Science Monitor that while some of the rancor towards
>>>> Rumsfeld can be attributed to his well publicized efforts
transform the
>>>> military, "much of the officer corps thinks he simply doesn't
>>>> understand technology or operations in sufficient depth to grasp the
>>>> consequences of his policies, and yet he routinely uses
his position to
>>>> quash dissent."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>> Imagine that Monte has absolutely no clue of the psychology of
>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty grudges of people who
don't want their
>>>>> bureaucracy changed. Anyone with a brain whose ever
worked in a large
>>>>> organization knows full well and first hand how change
adverse some
>>>>> people can be.  Rumsfeld has been reforming and
changing the military,
>>>>> its operations, its budgeting, its programs, its
structure, etc. since
>>>>> first coming to office.  If he didn't make a few change adverse
>>>>> generals upset then THAT would be something to worry about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's and 100's of generals have
retired, been
>>>>> passed over, been pushed out of the military and only
4 or 5 out of
>>>>> these 100's come forward to bitch when it is in their
own pecuniary
>>>>> and petty interests to so do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile (i.e. Monte et al) would
consider these
>>>>> people anything but petty change adverse, passed over
for promotion,
>>>>> bureaucrats. Seeking revenge on the guy who isn't as
milk toasty as
>>>>> the incompetent defense secretary's to whom they grew
accustomed under
>>>>> Clinton.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you have no defense to
these comments.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>> news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>> "Mark"  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we crossed the Rhine...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imagine that neither Victor nor Mark has a clue
about the differences
>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that they do -- but find it
ideologically useful to
>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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