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echo: r_catholic
to: Syd
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-26 16:10:46
subject: Re: In what sense does God exist for you?

From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 25, 5:38 pm, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 25, 10:36 am, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 24, 8:16 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 11:29 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:58 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:35 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For most
unsophisticated people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism is just
another belief system like theism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any faith in
the scientific method?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>> No faith is requared, Stupir.
>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>> More then I trust a "revealed
religeon".
>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>> To do what?
>>>>>>>> Everything?
>>>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method
>>>>>>>> in figuring out how to distribute wealth?
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>> What the hell are you mubling about?
>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>> There are many problems in the world
>>>>>> that cannot be solved by the scientific method.
>>>>>> It's useless in matters of value judgment.
>>>>>> The matter of God is probably one of them.
>>>>>> God's existence is not a matter of physical fact.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>> Cutting and pasting a reply does not make that reply
any more useful,
>>>>> Stuper..
>>>>> PDW
>>>> How do you know that the universe exists?
>>>> How do you go about proving its existence?
>>>> --
>>>> ~Stumper
>>> Well, if I stub my toe on it, it's real.
>>> What do you do to test reality?
>>> PDW
>> If many people say they believe in God,
>> that's good enough for me.
>>
>> I would say, "Whatever!"
>>
>> If they try to kill me in the name of God,
>> I would probably try to figure out what God is
>> instead of denying its existence.
>>
>> I would ask:
>>
>> In what sense does God exist for you?
>> Care to tell me how God exists?
>>
>> --
>> ~Stumper
>
> God does not exist for me, lunkhead. I am an unbeliever.
> How many times does this has to be explained to you?
>
> PDW
>


You need to do a paradigm shift first to understand.

God is better handled by social science than by natural science.

My working hypothesis for this week is this: God is a world government in exile.

God as the world government in exile is working hard to take over the world.

Can you afford to ignore it?

--
~Stumper

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