The dangers of a national ID card is that it will strip away
any last bit of a person being a State Citizen or a Sovereign
Person. It throws you into a class of Federal Citizen.
The INS CARD will do this, as well as any National Health
Card, or any ID issued by the Federal Government.
I think the government thinks in reverse when engineering
their plans to destroy America.  Most people are taught to
look at a problem, analyze the solution(s), and achieve
the end results.   I think the government does this in
reverse.. They look at the desired end results, analyze
the solutions, and implement the problem.
  example:
  (end result) "All citizens must have a National ID card"
  (solution)   Massive emigration
  (problem)    destroy Mexican economy
Butthead:  "We need to get all citizens under a federal ID card."
Bonehead:  "but sir, the people won't do that."
Dickhead:  "They would, if they thought they needed one."
Bonehead:  "How are we going to do that!"
Butthead:  "I know! Lets have a flood of millions if illegal
aliens coming in, taking jobs, getting welfare, etc... we will
make it easy to do, then leak it to the press that all these
aliens are getting the citizens hard earned tax dollars!"
Dickhead:  "That sounds good, but how are we going to get
millions of illegal immigrants to come into the U.S.?"
Bonehead:  "Well, I bet if Mexico's economy collapsed, there
would be millions of illegals crossing into the U.S. and the
people would not like it at all!"
Butthead:  "Good point there, but how do we collapse their
economy?"
Dickhead:  We could start by having the support of the President
down there, offer him 500 million for his help.  We can set up
a  North American Free Trade deal, and cause all kinds of hell
down there."
Bonehead:  "But the people here may not want a free trade
agreement."
Dickhead:  "Who gives a rats ass what they want!"
Bonehead:  "What about Congress?"
Butthead:  "What about them?  they'll get their kickbacks."
Dickhead:  "O.K., make it so... David is getting antsy."
Bonehead:  "Speaking of David, did you see his plans to
convert the State of Arizona into his private winter estate?"
Butthead:  "No, but that's nothing!  I've seen the plans where
each of the Committee of 300 will divide up the globe, each
getting an equal part of the world for their own private
property, and anyone living in those regions will be their
private slaves."
Dickhead:  "Who cares?, We're getting paid to destroy America.
Besides, they promised us each 10,000 acres and a mansion, and
our own stable of slaves...so lets get busy.  Now, back to this
Mexican thing...."
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(sorry, my rambling got carried away!)
S maybe we need to think backwards.... Look at the end
results (Constitutional (small) federal government)
Now lets analyze the solution. Envision in your mind if you
will, the perfect Country, and try to "see" what was done
that brought us this perfect country.
Then, look at the problem that caused the solution to come about.
And finally, activate the problem.
I would bet that just the formation of militias is a VERY good
PROBLEM! (for the government).  Gritz once said something to
the effect of:  "You know you are right over the target when
you catch the most flak".  And the militias are getting ALOT
of flak, as well as the Christians, and Patriotic people.
This blasting of us by the Feds tells me, we are RIGHT ON TARGET
with our actions!  Never before (in my life) has the Feds FEARED
the people!  and the proof is that they are doing everything
they can do vilify us and attempting to recover public opinion.
We have them on the ropes....
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From: WARD DOSSCHE                                          Time: 02:13pm
\/To: HUBERT BARNICH                                      (Read 0 times)
Subj: Due Regard?

Could THIS be the planned scenario?
Doing some simple math, I can see that the government didn't
do simple math in their equations, (or maybe they did?).
Let's say there are 70 million gun owners.  Let's also say that
some of these owners live in the same house.  So let's just
assume there are 50 million homes with guns.  Now, if the
Feds want to try to confiscate guns quietly, let's say 1,000
homes per day nationwide, (which wouldn't be quiet at all!)
gee, it would take 50,000 days, or 136.9 YEARS at that rate
of speed. And that is if they JUST go to homes that have guns.
But no, they have to go door to door to ALL homes to search for
guns.
Now, assuming they would, and using the figures of 250 million,
divided by 4 people per household, that would be 62.5 million
homes.  With a force of 1 million "searchers" divided into
crews of 10 to a "unit" (for their safety), that would be
100,000 crews to search 62.5 million homes, if they spent just
2 hours ripping apart each house, and worked on 12-on-12-off
shifts, each crew could search 6 houses per shift. That would
be 600,000 houses per day. At 62.5 million houses, it would  take
the 1 million searchers 104 days to complete it.  BUT then again,
long before this got that bad, the original 1 million would be
dropping like flys from the others in the neighborhood, and not
to mention, this is just HOUSE searches, not included is looking
for all the stockpiles out in the boonies, and that stockpiles
would be moved from "pre-searched" locations to "searched"
locations.
I can't figure out how they think they can pull off a door-to-door
sweep nationwide.  It can't be done!  I know it, you know it,
and for damned sure, THEY KNOW IT!   They know they can't do
nationwide sweeps, and they know they can not win a conventional
offensive against the people.
Folks, they don't want our guns, what they want is us DEAD!
They've passed laws banning this and banning that, not in
hopes that we turn in our guns, no, but to RATTLE our cages,
get us excited, get us mad, make us buy more guns, stock up
on ammo, Make us push that PANIC BUTTON. That is what they want
us to do, and when the economy CRASHES completely, all the banks
fail, unemployment is 98%, the stores start to get looted for food,
ammo, weapons, etc.... Arson is rampant.  Within a week or two,
all the food has been consumed.  It's winter, no electricity,
no heat.  You don't dare burn wood, as the smoke would attract
attention from a mob of over 100 people that are near starvation
and may find out you have food.
The government will sit back and watch the divided races kill
EACH OTHER.  The hungry will be killed by those who have the food
(or vice-versa), the "stockpilers".
Remember, it IS the plan to reduce the population in the U.S.
drastically, and citizens killing off citizens for food and self
protection in a rioting nation is the easiest and safest way for
them.
That way, "they" are not blamed, and the remaining fools
will believe them.  The Government will say "you brought it
on yourself."  They will make it "appear" that they are trying
to prevent the carnage, with military, and no doubt help it
along by taking out many.  They will say "it's too dangerous
to live in this area, for your own safety, please get on the
truck and we will "relocate" you to a safe area", (right to
the internment camps), "Oh, and by the way, so we can get you
back to your home properly, let me inject this chip under your
skin, don't worry, it won't hurt".
When the smoke clears, and the fires have long since burned out,
many dead still in the streets, most of the living are starving,
and those few remaining patriots who were protecting their food
and water supples of their private stockpiles, the government
will come out of their underground bunkers and deal with the
remaining "resisters", those healthy and well stocked patriots,
as the final target for their new world.  THEN they will collect
up the guns from the remaining.  THEN a law will be passed,
the death penalty for possession of a gun, or for even knowing
where one is, and not reporting it to the "overseer" of our
NEWLY instituted government and the NewStates Constitution.
After a year or so of the above scenario, after 100 to 150 million
people died from being shot, starving, or for whatever reason, will
there be enough patriots left to stand up and fight against the new
government?
Seone once said, "If you want to change a country, change the
people in it."  Due to our Liberal immigration policies, today,
many do not know what the Constitution really means, or the Bill
of Rights... nor do they really care.... will there be enough who
will remember, (or care) in the end?
No, they don't want our guns, they want citizens to USE their guns
to kill off tens of millions of other citizens.  Why should "they"
do the dirty work, when they can trick the people into doing it
FOR THEM!!!
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From: KEN NOTT                                              Time: 05:37am
\/To: GEORGE SCHULTZ                                      (Read 0 times)
Subj: News-651

  >JT>     So what does that prove? A national poll reports that 39% of
  >JT>  Americans don't trust the government and are mad as hell because of
  >JT>  what
  >JT>  went on in Waco. And the number is growing.
I heard a blurb about some polling, where they mentioned that a
significant % had negative opinions (FEELINGS) about militias. I only
wish they (pollers) would have asked the respondents "WHY? What do they
stand for that you disagree with?"
I would bet that those negatives are due to media coverage and that they
don't even know what the militia is. Duh! ;-)
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