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to: Geo
from: Robert Comer
date: 2006-04-16 07:44:36
subject: Re: Don`t worry

From: "Robert Comer" 

>Titan has
> weather similar to earth (different chemicals) wrt forces that shape the
> land and it's -200F.

Yep, and different chemicals need different levels of heat to cause problems.

> As Adam or someone pointed out, weather is created by temperature
> differences, ie energy moving from one location to another. Not by simple
> stored energy.

I never said any different.

--
Bob Comer


"Geo"  wrote in message news:4441a7da$2{at}w3....
> Venus had a larger temperature difference between night and day. Titan has
> weather similar to earth (different chemicals) wrt forces that shape the
> land and it's -200F.
>
> As Adam or someone pointed out, weather is created by temperature
> differences, ie energy moving from one location to another. Not by simple
> stored energy.
>
> Geo.
>
> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
> news:44416bc6$1{at}w3....
>> > I still don't agree, we have other planets in our solar system with
>> > atmospheres, some hotter, some cooler, almost all the others have more
>> > violent weather than we do.
>>
>> That's not a valid argument because those other planets with an
>> atmosphere
>> and more violent storms *are* hotter than here.
>>
>> A good example is Venus, it's as close to 1 A.U. as you can get and not
>> be
>> earth, but you see, it's got a lot of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere
>> and what do you know, but it's got storms that earth has never seen
>> power-wise.  Lets go out a little, mars, light atmosphere, some dust
> storms
>> but nothing that can compare to a hurricane.  Now how about Jupiter, hows
>> 125000 Kelvin at the center?  Now Saturn, 15000 Kelvin at the center.
>> Uranus, 5000 kelvin, but with winds comparable to earth most places and
>> don't forget about atmospheric difference in weight of gasses and such.
> As
>> a comparison, the earths core is somewhere between 3700 and 7300 Kelvin.
>> (There's some argument about that obviously.)  It's true core temperature
>> don't have as much to do with storm heat here on earth because of the
> rocky
>> basis of our planet, but the gas giant, just think of the atmospheric
>> pressure and you can tell where the heat for the storms comes from...
>>
>> >In fact if you use them as examples it would
>> > seem heat is meaningless and that the denser the atmosphere the more
>> > severe
>> > the storms.
>>
>> Aye, because of the heat generated by the compression.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> "Geo"  wrote in message
news:444164e1$4{at}w3....
>> > "Robert Comer" 
wrote in message
>> > news:44416279$1{at}w3....
>> >
>> >> heat to make a storm, but when those other factors are
present, more
> heat
>> >> most certainly means stronger storm.
>> >
>> > I still don't agree, we have other planets in our solar system with
>> > atmospheres, some hotter, some cooler, almost all the others have more
>> > violent weather than we do. In fact if you use them as examples it
>> > would
>> > seem heat is meaningless and that the denser the atmosphere the more
>> > severe
>> > the storms.
>> >
>> > Geo.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

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