cv wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:45:31 -0800, bluesmama wrote:
>
> >
> > greg1199{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> >> bluesmama wrote:
> >> > greg1199{at}yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > > connor_a{at}hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > > > HEAVILY pregnant women catch public transport
in Sydney peak
> > hour
> >> > > -and
> >> > > > are forced to stand among indifferent
commuters who refuse
to
> >> offer
> >> > > > them a seat.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12548751-1242,00.html
> >> [...]
> >> > > Equal or not, they can kiss my ass sideways if they expect me
to
> >> give
> >> > > up my seat for them.  They can't hurl abuse at us from all
sides
> >> and
> >> > > still expect the gentlemanly courtesies men once gave them.
Let
> >> them
> >> > > stand, or let them get out and take a long walk, preferably
off a
> >> > short
> >> > > pier.
> >> >
> >> > It's a human courtesy to give up a seat to someone who needs it
> > more.
> >>
> >> Oh don't even start with that.  You're not going to pass this off
as
> >> "human courtesy" when we both know it's about chivalry.  If
elderly
> > or
> >> disabled men were being denied seats on busses, do you think we'd
> > hear
> >> about it? Can you point us to a shame piece on injured men being
> >> "forced" to stand in busses?  Forget it.  This
article obviously
had
> >> the purpose of nagging men, and you know that, but you still can't
> >> accept me flatly refusing to be nagged, so you come up with this
> >> asinine "human courtesy" tripe.  It doesn't wash.
> >
> > The action of not giving the pregnant woman a seat was about
> > discourtesy.
> >
> > The media attention given to the incident, if similar attention
> > wouldn't be given to an incident with a man, would indeed be about
> > chivalry.
>
> This was not an "incident" that the media just happened to pick up
on. The
> Daily Telegraph intentionally followed four pregnant women across the
> city, but no old or infirm men. So chivalry was certainly on their
agenda.
> In fact they explicitly lament the loss of chivalry in the report.
>
> -CV
>
> >> > But maybe you live in a community that doesn't need those kinds
of
> >> > simple rules for good manners.
> >>
> >> Are you attempting to insult me here?  I would ding you for
mindless
> >> denigration, but you aren't even good for that.
> >>
> >> [...]
> >
> > I'm not attempting to insult you as far as you know.

Then the media coverage was about chivalry, using common discourtesy as
an example. Does that satisfy you?



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