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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-04-15 14:52:50
subject: Re: What a wonderful fireguard

From: "Gary Britt" 

Your link shows total active duty personnel by rank with generals at just
under 1000.  Today's military is designed to be composed of not just active
duty but reserve personnel.  That will put generals over 1000.  When you
total active duty, reserves, national guard, and retired, its thousands
Bob. Rumsfeld was correct.  You should have kept listening.

Gary

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:44412ac4$1{at}w3....
> http://www.dior.whs.mil/mmid/military/miltop.htm
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:444129c3{at}w3....
>> There are thousands of Generals Bob.  Almost 2000 active duty generals,
>> and must be thousands more retired.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
>> news:44411aec$1{at}w3....
>>> Rumsfeld also said there are thousands of generals/admirals, which I
>>> know is exaggerated to say the least, and I stopped listening to him
>>> after that.....
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:44411a0a{at}w3....
>>>> Generals brings us back to the change adverse whiners and
incompetents
>>>> and passed over for promotion people who are speaking out
to hawk books
>>>> and to promote their feelings against the military
reformation that Don
>>>> Rumsfeld has been pushing since coming into office.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:443ffe69{at}w3....
>>>>> So none of the Generals have any experience either?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding
Rumsfeld step down,
>>>>> breaking a long tradition of the military steering
clear of politics.
>>>>>
>>>>> "We have nothing to gain by this. There's no
political agenda at all,"
>>>>> Batiste said. "We've been loyal subordinates.
This is all about
>>>>> soldiers - service men and women - and their families."
>>>>>
>>>>> Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in
2004 and 2005. He
>>>>> retired from the military in November 2005, passing up
a third star
>>>>> and a chance to be second in command in Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
>>>>>> It doesn't say anything in there about having any defense
>>>>>> department/military operations and strategy
expertise now does it.
>>>>>> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the Lexington
Institute your cup of
>>>>>>> tea. It's not the liberals that are turning
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Lexington Institute believes in limiting
the role of the federal
>>>>>>> government to those functions explicitly
stated or implicitly
>>>>>>> defined by the Constitution. The Institute
therefore actively
>>>>>>> opposes the unnecessary intrusion of the
federal government into the
>>>>>>> commerce and culture of the nation, and strives to find
>>>>>>> nongovernmental, market-based solutions to
public-policy challenges.
>>>>>>> We believe a dynamic private sector is the
greatest engine for
>>>>>>> social progress and economic prosperity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot
better than Loren Thompson
>>>>>>>>and the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a general thinks a policy is so wrong
that it puts his troops in
>>>>>>>> needless and senseless danger, then he
should have the courage of
>>>>>>>> his convictions; resign his commission
publicly and make known at
>>>>>>>> that time the specific reasons for his resignation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book
hawking and change adverse
>>>>>>>> and/or disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the
officer corps soon
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives_
are_out_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bn
N1YmNhdA--
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military analyst
of the Lexington Institute,
>>>>>>>>> told the Christian Science Monitor
that while some of the rancor
>>>>>>>>> towards Rumsfeld can be attributed to
his well publicized efforts
>>>>>>>>> transform the military, "much of
the officer corps thinks he
>>>>>>>>> simply doesn't understand technology
or operations in sufficient
>>>>>>>>> depth to grasp the consequences of his
policies, and yet he
>>>>>>>>> routinely uses his position to quash
dissent."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>>> Imagine that Monte has absolutely
no clue of the psychology of
>>>>>>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty
grudges of people who don't want
>>>>>>>>>> their bureaucracy changed. Anyone
with a brain whose ever worked
>>>>>>>>>> in a large organization knows full
well and first hand how change
>>>>>>>>>> adverse some people can be. 
Rumsfeld has been reforming and
>>>>>>>>>> changing the military, its
operations, its budgeting, its
>>>>>>>>>> programs, its structure, etc.
since first coming to office.  If
>>>>>>>>>> he didn't make a few change
adverse generals upset then THAT
>>>>>>>>>> would be something to worry about.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's and
100's of generals have retired,
>>>>>>>>>> been passed over, been pushed out
of the military and only 4 or 5
>>>>>>>>>> out of these 100's come forward to
bitch when it is in their own
>>>>>>>>>> pecuniary and petty interests to so do.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile (i.e.
Monte et al) would consider
>>>>>>>>>> these people anything but petty
change adverse, passed over for
>>>>>>>>>> promotion, bureaucrats. Seeking
revenge on the guy who isn't as
>>>>>>>>>> milk toasty as the incompetent
defense secretary's to whom they
>>>>>>>>>> grew accustomed under Clinton.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you
have no defense to these comments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>
news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we crossed
the Rhine...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine that neither Victor
nor Mark has a clue about the
>>>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that they do
-- but find it ideologically
>>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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