From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Really. What happens when the reserves are called up - They are on active
duty. I read what Rumsfield said ( the transcript is online). I also gave
you the DOD numbers from Feb of this year.



"Gary Britt"  wrote in message news:44414169$1{at}w3....
> Your link shows total active duty personnel by rank with generals at just
> under 1000.  Today's military is designed to be composed of not just
> active duty but reserve personnel.  That will put generals over 1000.
> When you total active duty, reserves, national guard, and retired, its
> thousands Bob. Rumsfeld was correct.  You should have kept listening.
>
> Gary
>
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
> news:44412ac4$1{at}w3....
>> http://www.dior.whs.mil/mmid/military/miltop.htm
>>
>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:444129c3{at}w3....
>>> There are thousands of Generals Bob.  Almost 2000 active duty generals,
>>> and must be thousands more retired.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> "Robert Comer"  wrote
in message
>>> news:44411aec$1{at}w3....
>>>> Rumsfeld also said there are thousands of generals/admirals, which I
>>>> know is exaggerated to say the least, and I stopped listening to him
>>>> after that.....
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:44411a0a{at}w3....
>>>>> Generals brings us back to the change adverse whiners
and incompetents
>>>>> and passed over for promotion people who are speaking
out to hawk
>>>>> books and to promote their feelings against the
military reformation
>>>>> that Don Rumsfeld has been pushing since coming into office.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rich Gauszka" 
wrote in message
>>>>> news:443ffe69{at}w3....
>>>>>> So none of the Generals have any experience either?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding
Rumsfeld step down,
>>>>>> breaking a long tradition of the military steering
clear of politics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "We have nothing to gain by this. There's no
political agenda at
>>>>>> all," Batiste said. "We've been loyal
subordinates. This is all about
>>>>>> soldiers - service men and women - and their families."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in
2004 and 2005. He
>>>>>> retired from the military in November 2005,
passing up a third star
>>>>>> and a chance to be second in command in Iraq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>> It doesn't say anything in there about having
any defense
>>>>>>> department/military operations and strategy
expertise now does it.
>>>>>>> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the
Lexington Institute your cup of
>>>>>>>> tea. It's not the liberals that are turning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Lexington Institute believes in
limiting the role of the
>>>>>>>> federal government to those functions
explicitly stated or
>>>>>>>> implicitly defined by the Constitution.
The Institute therefore
>>>>>>>> actively opposes the unnecessary intrusion
of the federal
>>>>>>>> government into the commerce and culture
of the nation, and strives
>>>>>>>> to find nongovernmental, market-based
solutions to public-policy
>>>>>>>> challenges. We believe a dynamic private
sector is the greatest
>>>>>>>> engine for social progress and economic prosperity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot
better than Loren Thompson
>>>>>>>>>and the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If a general thinks a policy is so
wrong that it puts his troops
>>>>>>>>> in needless and senseless danger, then
he should have the courage
>>>>>>>>> of his convictions; resign his
commission publicly and make known
>>>>>>>>> at that time the specific reasons for
his resignation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book
hawking and change adverse
>>>>>>>>> and/or disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the
officer corps soon
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives
_are_out_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5b
nN1YmNhdA--
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military
analyst of the Lexington
>>>>>>>>>> Institute, told the Christian
Science Monitor that while some of
>>>>>>>>>> the rancor towards Rumsfeld can be
attributed to his well
>>>>>>>>>> publicized efforts transform the
military, "much of the officer
>>>>>>>>>> corps thinks he simply doesn't
understand technology or
>>>>>>>>>> operations in sufficient depth to
grasp the consequences of his
>>>>>>>>>> policies, and yet he routinely
uses his position to quash
>>>>>>>>>> dissent."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Gary Britt"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine that Monte has
absolutely no clue of the psychology of
>>>>>>>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty
grudges of people who don't want
>>>>>>>>>>> their bureaucracy changed.
Anyone with a brain whose ever worked
>>>>>>>>>>> in a large organization knows
full well and first hand how
>>>>>>>>>>> change adverse some people can
be.  Rumsfeld has been reforming
>>>>>>>>>>> and changing the military, its
operations, its budgeting, its
>>>>>>>>>>> programs, its structure, etc.
since first coming to office.  If
>>>>>>>>>>> he didn't make a few change
adverse generals upset then THAT
>>>>>>>>>>> would be something to worry about.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's
and 100's of generals have retired,
>>>>>>>>>>> been passed over, been pushed
out of the military and only 4 or
>>>>>>>>>>> 5 out of these 100's come
forward to bitch when it is in their
>>>>>>>>>>> own pecuniary and petty
interests to so do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile
(i.e. Monte et al) would consider
>>>>>>>>>>> these people anything but
petty change adverse, passed over for
>>>>>>>>>>> promotion, bureaucrats.
Seeking revenge on the guy who isn't as
>>>>>>>>>>> milk toasty as the incompetent
defense secretary's to whom they
>>>>>>>>>>> grew accustomed under Clinton.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you
have no defense to these
>>>>>>>>>>> comments.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>
news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we
crossed the Rhine...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Imagine that neither
Victor nor Mark has a clue about the
>>>>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that
they do -- but find it ideologically
>>>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>>>>>>>
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