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to: Robert Comer
from: Gary Britt
date: 2006-04-15 13:11:56
subject: Re: What a wonderful fireguard

From: "Gary Britt" 

There are thousands of Generals Bob.  Almost 2000 active duty generals, and
must be thousands more retired.

Gary

"Robert Comer"  wrote in message
news:44411aec$1{at}w3....
> Rumsfeld also said there are thousands of generals/admirals, which I know
> is exaggerated to say the least, and I stopped listening to him after
> that.....
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:44411a0a{at}w3....
>> Generals brings us back to the change adverse whiners and incompetents
>> and passed over for promotion people who are speaking out to hawk books
>> and to promote their feelings against the military reformation that Don
>> Rumsfeld has been pushing since coming into office.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message
>> news:443ffe69{at}w3....
>>> So none of the Generals have any experience either?
>>>
>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1842182&page=1
>>>
>>> Batiste is one of six retired generals demanding Rumsfeld step down,
>>> breaking a long tradition of the military steering clear of politics.
>>>
>>> "We have nothing to gain by this. There's no political
agenda at all,"
>>> Batiste said. "We've been loyal subordinates. This is all about
>>> soldiers - service men and women - and their families."
>>>
>>> Batiste led the First Infantry Division in Iraq in 2004 and 2005. He
>>> retired from the military in November 2005, passing up a third star and
>>> a chance to be second in command in Iraq.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
news:443ff67c$1{at}w3....
>>>> It doesn't say anything in there about having any defense
>>>> department/military operations and strategy expertise now does it.
>>>> Doesn't even indicate interest in military stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"  wrote
in message
>>>> news:443ff261$1{at}w3....
>>>>> Gee Gary  I would have thought the Lexington Institute
your cup of
>>>>> tea. It's not the liberals that are turning
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/mission.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> The Lexington Institute believes in limiting the role
of the federal
>>>>> government to those functions explicitly stated or
implicitly defined
>>>>> by the Constitution. The Institute therefore actively
opposes the
>>>>> unnecessary intrusion of the federal government into
the commerce and
>>>>> culture of the nation, and strives to find nongovernmental,
>>>>> market-based solutions to public-policy challenges. We believe a
>>>>> dynamic private sector is the greatest engine for
social progress and
>>>>> economic prosperity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Gary Britt"  wrote in
message news:443fe9ee$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>I bet he understands it a hell of a lot better than
Loren Thompson and
>>>>>>the entire Lexington Institute.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If a general thinks a policy is so wrong that it
puts his troops in
>>>>>> needless and senseless danger, then he should have
the courage of his
>>>>>> convictions; resign his commission publicly and
make known at that
>>>>>> time the specific reasons for his resignation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Otherwise its just money hungry book hawking and
change adverse
>>>>>> and/or disgruntled EX employees of the military.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>>>> news:443fe058$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>> The Bushies will have to purge the officer corps soon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
http://news.yahoo.com/s/realclearpolitics/20060414/cm_rcp/the_knives_ar
e_out_for_rummy;_ylt=A86.I2ELwT9EM18BjgT9wxIF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1
YmNhdA--
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But Loren Thompson, a military analyst of the
Lexington Institute,
>>>>>>> told the Christian Science Monitor that while
some of the rancor
>>>>>>> towards Rumsfeld can be attributed to his well
publicized efforts
>>>>>>> transform the military, "much of the
officer corps thinks he simply
>>>>>>> doesn't understand technology or operations in
sufficient depth to
>>>>>>> grasp the consequences of his policies, and
yet he routinely uses
>>>>>>> his position to quash dissent."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Gary Britt" 
wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:443fcfcd$1{at}w3....
>>>>>>>> Imagine that Monte has absolutely no clue
of the psychology of
>>>>>>>> bureaucracies and the petty grudges of
people who don't want their
>>>>>>>> bureaucracy changed. Anyone with a brain
whose ever worked in a
>>>>>>>> large organization knows full well and
first hand how change
>>>>>>>> adverse some people can be.  Rumsfeld has
been reforming and
>>>>>>>> changing the military, its operations, its
budgeting, its programs,
>>>>>>>> its structure, etc. since first coming to
office.  If he didn't
>>>>>>>> make a few change adverse generals upset
then THAT would be
>>>>>>>> something to worry about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Over the past 5 years 100's and 100's of
generals have retired,
>>>>>>>> been passed over, been pushed out of the
military and only 4 or 5
>>>>>>>> out of these 100's come forward to bitch
when it is in their own
>>>>>>>> pecuniary and petty interests to so do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only a non-nuanced imbecile (i.e. Monte et
al) would consider these
>>>>>>>> people anything but petty change adverse,
passed over for
>>>>>>>> promotion, bureaucrats. Seeking revenge on
the guy who isn't as
>>>>>>>> milk toasty as the incompetent defense
secretary's to whom they
>>>>>>>> grew accustomed under Clinton.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Don't reply Monte, we know you have no
defense to these comments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Monte Davis"
 wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:glcv32db4qtplkv84l9fnm2g6nmgr5t85e{at}4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Imagine that, as we crossed the Rhine...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Imagine that neither Victor nor Mark
has a clue about the
>>>>>>>>> differences
>>>>>>>>> between WWII and Iraq.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Or, more likely, that they do -- but
find it ideologically useful
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> ignore them)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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