-=> Quoting Ken Whiton to Dan Ceppa <=-

 DC>>> Ok, Ok, OK!  It's 5 hours, not 4 &*^($(*$  hours!     VBG!

 KW> It's both, depending on whether the "season" is Standard Time or
 KW> Daylight Savings Time, and that's a dead giveaway that it's TZ (Time
 KW> Zone) environment variable related.  Most likely, you don't have a TZ
 KW> environment variable set.  Some programs deal with the lack of this
 KW> variable by assuming the local time is Eastern Time (Standard or
 KW> Daylight Savings depending on the time of year), while others assume
 KW> local is UCT (Universal Coordinated Time, formerly known as GMT, or
 KW> Greenwich Mean Time).  Depending on the time of year, the difference
 KW> between these is 4 or 5 hours, the same as your timestamp anomaly.  I'm
 KW> guessing that in the collection of programs that you use to process
 KW> your mail there is at least one of each type described above, and when
 KW> your messages are passed between them the different treatments of
 KW> "local" time result in the observed modification of the message
 KW> timestamps. 
 CJ>> Well, what's an hour when we are dealing with Y2K? ;-)
 
 DC> I realized that I had the 5-hr problem shortly after Y2K.

 KW> The chances are that it was there all along, but you never noticed
 KW> it before that because you weren't looking for date/time anomalies.

 Ken

 It has been some time since I have seen you name in here.  How are
 things going with you?

 Your mention of the TZ variable is what I was trying to think about
 yesterday when I sent a message to Dan and could not think of the name
 or just how it functioned.  My memory leads me to believe that BW 2.12
 needed TZ set, but it has been so long since I used 2.12 I could be
 wrong.  I do think I read something about it a long time ago in
 connection with BW.

 I do not know when Dan is seeing the time stamp that is off.  When
 composing message or when looking at them as they come back from the
 FIDO feed he uses. (I am lead to think that he runs a BBS and gets the
 Jam packet from there to convert to BW).  Anyway some of the doors on
 BBS's have a choice of using the date and time on your message or using
 the date and time of the upload.  With the use of telnet and connecting
 to BBS's in other time zones from that of the sender can affect the
 time stamps on messages depending on the door setting.  I was active on
 a very active BBS a few years ago that used the time stamp to delete
 old messages.  I had the door set to use the BBS time stamp at time of
 upload to keep the message in the message base longer.  There has been
 times that it is 24 hours or later after I compose a message before it
 gets uploaded.

... Ben    

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