From: Adam <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near
the bridge">

Mark wrote:
> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote:
>> Yes we know you have no interest in arrests or convictions. Just kill them
>> ( whoever them happens to be ). So much for the Constitution of the United
>> States and the rule of law.
>
> Since when does the world get protection under our Constitution?  of the Ft. Dix tubesteaks rates it, the others should be shipped off to
> Gitmo right now and fed Filet Mignon until he talks -- what torture!!!>
>
>

Humm.....

Partly coz killing innocents is just so self-defeating e.g.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,270713,00.html

" A U.S. commander said Tuesday he is "deeply ashamed" by
the Marine killings of Afghan civilians in March and reported that the
American military has made condolence payments to their families.

"Today we met with the families of those victims: 19 dead and 50
injured," said Col. John Nicholson, commander of the 3rd Brigade, 10th
Mountain Division, deployed in eastern Afghanistan. "We made official
apologies on the part of the U.S. government" and payments of about
$2,000 for each death."


I still can't work out if the marines panicked or just went psycho.

"In the March 4 incident in Nangahar province, an explosives-rigged
minivan crashed into a convoy of Marines that U.S. officials said also came
under fire from gunmen. Injured Afghans said the Americans fired on
civilian cars and pedestrians as they sped away.

A U.S. military commander later determined that the Marines used excessive
force and referred the case for possible criminal inquiry. The Afghan
Independent Human Rights Commission said the Marines violated international
humanitarian law by using excessive force when they fired along a 10-mile
stretch of road."

Note the last sentence....if you were on the road....even 10 miles from the
incident....even if on foot or a bicycle...

So how well disposed will that make Afghans feel towards "foreign forces"?

Months & months of UK/Canadian etc being nice to people (at great
risk), etc.etc. & some nutty effing marines in 1/2 an hour....

I say chuck em in the back of a C130 & then when the a/c has reached
cruise altitude throw em out the back.


>> Why you seem to yearn for a Police State I do not understand. I will not
>> give up my way of life for them or for you.
>
> I'm trying to avoid a police state here by killing the s.o.b.'s over there
> before they force it upon us over here.
>

This is the part I simply don't get about the yellow streak in the right
wing. How on earth do you think that a few beardy nutters could do that?

A) The only people who could force a police state on you is your own gov.
They are who you should watch & defend yourself against.

B) They can't even do the above "over there". They didn't manage
it in Afghanistan & they certainly won't manage it in Iraq so why on
earth could they manage it in the US?

>> I will not surrender to this fear you have of Moslems coming here to place
>> Burkas on our women or their coming here to kill us.
>
> I have no fear of Moslems coming here, I have fear of the leftist
> "multi-culti" surrender modus operandi that defers to their
every dream of
> undermining our country as we know it. Go wash your feet in Minnesota Bob,
> while you still have the chance to travel to do so, rather than install foot
> washing stations in your town square -- but rip down that offensive cross,
> rip down that Christmas Tree -- God, the hypocrisy and underlying deathwish
> defies reason. It's truly scary how far you guys will go to give up your
> country without a shot.
>

ROFLMAO. The problem is that those liberal types you fear so much are equal
opportunity deniers. e.g. over here the muslims & jews have been
fighting the "liberals" over animal rights/welfare vs
"ordained by God" slaughter methods e.g. halal.


>  >I'd prefer to find the correct people and get rid of
>> them ( Where is that Pesky Bin Laden anyway) not just go and kill for the
>> sake of killing ( which seems to have increased the number of people
>> opposing us).
>
> Find the "correct" people? If they rise up and yell
"death to America," they
> are the correct people -- they're not hard to find, they're on Al Jazeera
> 24/7/365 -- what part of "us against them" don't you understand?
>

Do you watch Al-Jazeera? The Arabic or English channeel. I quite like the
English channel as they cover areas & angles which the MSM don't. e.g.
they've been bothering to keep reporting from Somalia etc even after the
rest of the MSM got bored by black on black violence.

Given most of the people on Al-Jazerra in English are former BBC types
(e.g. Rageeh Omar) then I am guessing you are advocating war against the
UK.


>> I have no interest in body counts for the sake of body counts, Find and
>> eliminate the actual problems, don't just kill and say we got rid of
>> 'terrorists'.
>
> I agree, until the terrorists realize that we're going to take them out
> ruthlessly, we're threatened by them -- when we cut and run from Iraq, we'll
> set back that perception by thousands upon thousands of lives and decades of
> otherwise avoidable strife around the world  now, and our defeat in the not too distant future>

(A) Sign up then Mark. Go grab some fatigues & head east young man. Go
sweat some for your country & your beliefs.

(B) I still don't understand how come a small group of nutters far away can
fill you with such fear.

Ehhh Mark....

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BOO !!



Adam

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