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echo: pol_inc
to: BOB KLAHN
from: JOHNJWILSON
date: 2009-12-10 23:43:12
subject: USS Liberty My new theory

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->  Not even close to true. It wasn't one pilot, it was repeated
->  flights. It was after repeated recon flights. It was torpedo
->  boats.

Oh. OK. Facts do get in the way of my theories often.
Thanks.

 

->  J> Trying to find fault and
->  J> blame in warfare is as stupid as warfare. It's ALL insane.
-> 
->  No, it's not stupid. Finding fault is necessary in judging who
->  should be removed from command and who should be put in command.

Eisenhower's treatment of German Prisoners of war is something never 
thought to be worthy of attention...merely proving selectivity in the
judgin',


->  Blame does attach to criminal acts.
Yes. In war the law against killing other people dead is pretty much
modified, and a feeling of guilt is not always absent. 

 A rapist in the military is
->  still a rapist.

No argument THERE.

 The reason the military opposed torture of Al
->  Qaeda prisoners was not because they are softies, but because
->  they recognize, what you do to others, others can justify doing
->  to you. Al Qaeda may not recognize it, but Russia would, as
->  would a lot of other countries.

"The reason the military opposed torture"

I've been staring at that.

I'llget back to you.

-> 
->  J> You think that was sumpthin'? We got opportunities by the
->  J> basket full!
-> 
-> ->> Ever watch Dr. Strangelove?
-> 
->  J> There is  always some truth in humour.
-> 
-> ->> ->  This makes it look like, just maybe, the intent was====
-> 
-> 
->  J> There is no
-> ->> ->  statute of limitations on murder.
-> 
->  J> There are little limitations of murder in war. Suck it up.
-> 
->  The military can and will try people for murder during wartime.

When it's convenient. Where's yer cynicism?

47.
-> 
->  J> Perhaps we are a merely voraciously war-like animal that
->  J> will soon kill each other off and like the lion, become
->  J> shortly extinct. It's a Goooood thing I have
->  J> great-grandchildren, or I wouldn't give a shit :-)
-> 
->  Your GG Children would appreciate a bit of justice being done.

They will be far too busy wallowing in the riches from the sale of the my
poetry.

You predict. I predict.

-> 
-> ->> This world is full of horrible miscarriages of justice
-> ->> ignored and buried for the short term political
-> ->> advantages of suppressing such knowledge.
-> 
->  And the advantage is gone, and the secret is revealed.

50 years later when keeping the REAL secret is no longer important.
Have ye not read "Foundation"? We know a LOT about Woodrow wilson we didn't
know five years ago....
-> 
 
 
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