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to: Robert G Lewis
from: Mark
date: 2007-05-07 21:12:24
subject: Re: Kansas National Guard lack of heavy equipment

From: "Mark" 

Eh, I conveyed my point of view Bob (and Rich), I didn't expect you to
agree with it. 

"Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
news:463fcb2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> No Mark the Bottom line is the equipment is not there. It has not been
> replaced and there don't seem to be any plans to do so. It's affecting
> every state.  Stating the equipment isn't there and where it is, is simply
> stating a fact.  Not replacing equipment has been known for several years.
> Its a problem that will have to be addressed.
>
> You are the one interpreting this as an attack on Bush. I didn't read the
> story that way
>
> So far the only person I've seen use this to for a cheap political shot is
> you. I don't see any cheap shots in the stories posted.  But you certainly
> seem to have been very willing to use the death and destruction for a
> cheap shot.
>
> her comments ( those I have seen) don't even come close to your ridicule
> for being crass and uncaring.
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
news:463fc627$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>> Why is the Governor of Kansas dissing Bush in the face of a terrible
>> disaster? The National Guard is there, FEMA is there, the Red Cross is
>> there, the neighboring towns EMS are there, the police are there...
>>
>> The entire town has been wiped out -- *all* of it -- it's going to be
>> years before it's made right again, regardless of how many National Guard
>> bulldozers are there tomorrow, the next day, or the next week.
>>
>> In fact they were interviewing a John Deere dealer owner, he's going to
>> keep all 35 employees on the payroll (via his insurance it sounds like)
>> and I'd bet my bottom dollar that John Deere will be donating equipment
>> for use in the clean up -- what the fuck ever happened to taking care of
>> yourselves vs. the whine fest?
>>
>> Why doesn't the governor leave her lame politics out of it? Why, suddenly
>> does every politician in the country suddenly seem to stand frozen in the
>> headlights like a soon to be dead deer, demanding that the Feds drop
>> everything and save them? The people there, the real sufferers, were not
>> whining, they were planning on how to overcome and rebuild before the
>> winds died down.
>>
>> The valid point is this Bob: because the Iraq war is currently unpopular
>> in national polls, the governor chooses a disaster for her citizens to
>> get a cheap shot in at their expense -- a really dumb cheap shot, because
>> odds are most of those Kansans in that wiped out town support our troops
>> and their National Guard members over there.
>>
>> That said if the Iraq war was popular in the national polls she'd never
>> have made such a dumb statement -- though it's still crass regardless.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert G Lewis"  wrote in message
>> news:463fbf21{at}w3.nls.net...
>>> And a Republican once again makes fun of death and destruction instead
>>> of raising ANY valid points.
>>>
>>> Why are the National Guard and Reserve units short on equipment ? Why
>>> have the Republicans failed to replaced damaged and destroyed equipment
>>> ?
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark"  wrote in message
>>> news:463fbb1a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>> Meanwhile that Chimp Bush is attending a white tie dinner with a
>>>> ceremonial head of state -- why doesn't he cancel that
dinner and fly
>>>> on out to Kansas immediately? These f'ing neocons don't
care about Joe
>>>> and Jane Citizen, let them eat wood chips >>> immediately in Iraq and bring that equipment home tomorrow
-- call up
>>>> the C130s right now!!!>
>>>>
>>>> "Rich Gauszka"
 wrote in message
>>>> news:463faaeb$1{at}w3.nls.net...
>>>>> Can't help victims if yiur equipment is in Iraq
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=10
03581816
>>>>>
>>>>> Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius said Sunday evening that
the state's
>>>>> response will likely be hampered because much of the
equipment usually
>>>>> positioned around the state to respond to emergencies
- including
>>>>> tents, trucks and semitrailers - is now in Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Not having the National Guard equipment, which
used to be positioned
>>>>> in various parts of the state, to bring in immediately
is really going
>>>>> to handicap this effort to rebuild," said Sebelius.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=6481093&nav=menu188_2
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem exists nationwide, according to a Government
>>>>> Accountability Report from January.  It said the
"National Guard may
>>>>> not be prepared to respond to domestic events, particularly
>>>>> large-scale, multi-state events...as efficiently and
effectively as
>>>>> possible."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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