From: "Robert G Lewis" 

Or you could actually address the points raised and reply with actual information.



"Mark"  wrote in message
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> P.S. In a nutshell John, your philosphy is that we should never have gone
> into Iraq, we should get out ASAP and we should work from a "law and
> order" and defensive posture (a 9/10 mind-set in other words).
>
> I disagree, I will never agree, so we really shouldn't do these arguments
> any more, cause I doubt you're moving either 
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message
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>> Yes, I see that Dem footprint all over the whining:
>>
>> 1) Kansas Governor makes overstated claims about no help when we can see
>> with our own eyes that the rescue is in progress.
>> 2) Yesterday an AP article in my local paper with a few more governors
>> (Dem) chiming in about how the United States is in deep trouble because
>> of Bush
>> 3) Some retired general (lots of them out there undermining their still
>> active duty brethren aren't there?) claiming in a Saturday radio rebuttal
>> (fancy footwork on that Howard!!! good for you bad for Petraous's
>> mission, bad for the troops in general, and bad for the USA) that we need
>> a new direction so we can have our troops back here to protect us. We
>> have a new friggin direction and Petraous is carrying it out -- shut
>> retired general, please, pretty friggin please.
>>
>> What a bunch of hooey -- I am not interested in cleaning up the brain
>> matter more efficiently on our streets and in our malls after an attack,
>> I'm interested in killing them where they are, instead of cutting,
>> running and buying new ambulances as they follow us here (and already
>> are).
>>
>> "John Cuccia"  wrote in message
>> news:dtpb435svr6fk9gef18m21b6adv5fmf71m{at}4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:36:39 -0400, "Mark"
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>The valid point is this Bob: because the Iraq war is
currently unpopular
>>>>in
>>>>national polls, the governor chooses a disaster for her
citizens to get
>>>>a
>>>>cheap shot in at their expense
>>>
>>> No.  The real valid point is that the Iraqi quagmire has depleted both
>>> the regular Army and the ANG.  All 50 governors have been trying to
>>> get someones attention for the past several years (and in case you are
>>> unaware, that number includes both Republicans and Democrats):
>>>
>>>
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-070513govs-guard-story,1
,3999163.story?coll=chi-news-hed
>>> Not long after that meeting, all 50 U.S. governors-the commanders in
>>> chief of their states' National Guards-signed a letter to President
>>> Bush imploring him to immediately begin reoutfitting their depleted
>>> National Guards. But little changed, and the Guard now has only 56
>>> percent of its required equipment, the lowest level in nearly six
>>> years, according to the Government Accountability Office.
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> In late 2005, a GAO report found that almost every state's National
>>> Guard had just a fraction of the equipment it was supposed to have.
>>> Another GAO report issued just months ago took the criticism further.
>>> "The high use of the National Guard for federal overseas
missions has
>>> reduced equipment available for its state-led domestic
missions," it
>>> concluded. The top commander of the National Guard, Lt. Gen. Steven
>>> Blum, testified to Congress last month that the continuous use of its
>>> forces for overseas missions has "resulted in a decline
of readiness
>>> for units here at home."
>>>
>>> Missing equipment-much of which has been shipped to Iraq or destroyed
>>> there-is a large part of the problem. Certain states are worse off:
>>> Arizona has just 34 percent of its allotted equipment; New Jersey and
>>> Idaho 42 percent; and Louisiana, ground zero for the worst natural
>>> disaster in modern memory, remains at less than 50 percent.
>>>
>>> Connecticut Gov. M. Jodi Rell, a Republican, wrote in March to the
>>> House Armed Services Committee that her state's National Guard was
>>> missing the kinds of vehicles it would need to dig out from a
>>> late-spring northeaster or to evacuate residents in the wake of a
>>> flood. The California National Guard, routinely called up in the event
>>> of earthquakes and any subsequent looting, is missing 700 Humvees, and
>>> it has only half the high-water vehicles it should and less than a
>>> third of its required stockpile of machine guns.
>>>
>>> In Illinois, the GAO estimates that the Guard has just 45 percent of
>>> its authorized equipment on hand and that it is particularly short of
>>> trucks, earthmovers and other equipment critical to emergency
>>> response.
>>
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