Hi
Dave,

On Thu 2038-Feb-04 19:51, Dave Drum (1:261/1381) wrote to Richard Webb:

DD> My post was aimed as the overly officious RC - not at you. He and
DD> the schoolyard bullies have made a project of denigrating Wayne,
DD> Ross Sauer and Dan Ceppa for some time. 

I've noted quite a bit of back and forth there between the
hard core right and those on the left.  I hope I jerk chains on both sides
equally, because I"m more of a libertarian, in the sense that if a law
makes no sense then  it isn't
needed.  I even have some trouble with what passes for hard
core libertarian orthodoxy .  Just too darned many gray
areas.



DD> AFAIK there are no rules for echomail except what the moderator of
DD> each echo has posted. And no rules about taking things to netmail
DD> and not posting in the open echo - unless the moderator has listed
DD> such in his rules postings.   

Agreed, and one of the problems that always rears it ugly
head in discussions of this type.

 RW> Though my query to Wayne relates to Fidonet politics from a
 RW> user's pov it's still politics.  You might respond with
 RW> "take it to a fidonet politics echo then."  Maybe a
 RW> legitimate point, but WAyne doesn't have access to them,
 RW> he's not a nodelisted sysop, and he chose to respond to Ross here, and

DD> That's because RC took him to task here ... where his post that RC
DD> was lambasting him for was legit.

A different tack than I would have taken.  WEre I in the
shoes of RC in that instance I would have netmailed his host sysop and
advised said sysop that his user was in violation, and to correct the
problem forthwith or I"d institute a feed cut.  But, such problems are
why I"ve never really wanted to host a general discussion echo. 
Closest I come to it might
be the guitar echo, where I"m willing to allow quite a bit
of latitude, just because the nature of such a forum is that conversatiohn
drifts on and off the stated topic, if it's an active forum.  IN such a
forum I"d rather not stifle
discussion.  Different strokes, but I wouldn't have handled
that situation the way ROss handled it, but I"m not ROss,
and his style of managing his conferences works for him, and I like to
think mine works for me.  But then again, ROss
knows the players quite a bit better than I do.




DD> BTW - has anyone heard from Dan? I haven't seen or heard anything
DD> from him for some months.

I haven't either.  I think I did a look at path lines from
last msg I saw from him when I heard that there was a
problem in the northwest with echomail movement.  I figured
he had a feed problem.  HOwever, that was some months back.

Regards,
           Richard
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