Hi Bob,

On Sun 2037-Jul-19 23:58, Bob Klahn (1:124/311) wrote to Richard Webb:

 RW> Be much harder to come back from this one.  Roosevelt's
 RW> programs were a good start, and a major war really helped,
 RW> but then we had the homegrown manufacturing and technology.
 RW> These days all that is done somewhere else.  Harder to come
 RW> back.

BK>  Yep. That's how I see it.

 RW> Our only salvation to come back from this next one might be
 RW> investing very heavily in repairing faltering
 RW> infrastructure.  PUtting all those bridges and other
 RW> systems we depend on so much might put people back to work
 RW> enough to do some good.  But without a major commitment by
 RW> our government it ain't gonna happen.

BK>  And we still gotta bring back manufacturing, what is the point  of
BK> the infrastructure if you have no where to go and nothing to  do
BK> when you get there?

True, and I'm really thinking the only thing that's gonna
bring that back is the collapse of the petroleum economy.
AS long as it can be manufactured and shipped around the
world as cheaply as it's done today there's no impetus to
change anything.  AS I said elsewhere in this echo a couple
of days ago, I expect at least another generation of general economic
disenfranchisement before this crap improves.  Peak oil might actually save
us.
OR should I say, the other side of peak oil.


Regards,
           Richard
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