While on the heels of Geoff Duke, Tim Hutzler said:
H Tim,
 > definitely going to vary from one place to another. I know that
 > Harrisburg, for example, requires electricians to be licensed
 
 TH> Sounds like the union has corrupted the local government.
 
 RW> Plumbers are required to be certified here in Sacramento.
 TH> 
 TH> Required to do what? Are you saying that only a 'certified' plumber
 TH> can be used in the building of a house? How many owner/builders that
 TH> that's a good idea, I doubt not too many.
 I know it sounds a bit odd, but yes; a plumber (tradesman) has
 to be a certified plumber here in Sac County.  A contractor or
 owner-builder on the other hand, does not. 
 
 
 RW> Been there and done it!
 TH> Have you remodeled any *mines*? 
 
 Nope, but I've been in a bunch of 'em in the Sierras.  I thought I saw
 a piece on TV where a guy is remodeling old nuclear missile silos into
 "houses".  It may have been in one of those up your way....?
 TH> Up here in Butte I designed/engineered/built my house. They only
 TH> required calcs from an engineer to proove that my design was sound. I
 Anyone can design a house as long as they can draw a decent plan and
 the design conforms to the conventional construction provisions of
 the UBC.  When it varies from these, an engineer's stamp is required.
 TH> did *all* the work, they required no certification. I would not live,
 That's the one good thing left is that you can still go buy a piece of
 land and build on it yourself, well after 7 or 8 agencies have ok'd
 your design and you've paid beaucoup bucks in fees!  :-(
 TH> nor build in an area where local government had the attitude that they
 TH> could tell me when, where, and what I had to do. The inspectors are
 The inspectors are only enforcing compliance with the building code which
 does not address aesthetics of design.  It sets minimum standards for fire
 and life safety, light, ventilation, sanitation and energy compliance.
 Your planning department may raise an eyebrow if you propose to build
 a house in the shape of a grain silo! :-)
 TH> more easy-going than in other counties.
 Hehehehehe..........Yep!  }:-)
 TTYL
 Russ
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