Ross Cassell -> Bob Klahn wrote:

 RC> An all voluntary military is the best way to insure we have people there
 RC> whom /want/ to be there, as opposed to people there because the law
 RC> mandated them being there. Many of our foreign allies have compulsory
 RC> service and I bet their militaries arent worth a shit. Of course for us,

AAMOF Israel has compulsory service for all adults starting at age 18.
Neither gender nor religion excuses that compulsion; All adult Israelis
must serve.

 RC>>> For your information, I registered for the draft on my 18th
 RC>>> birthday, the very day of it AAMOF, at the Merrified Va
 RC>>> Post Office.

My son did the same on 5/24/95.

 BK>>  Wow! I am impressed. I do not remember the exact day I
 BK>>  registered. I do remember the exact day I enlisted. That is the
 BK>>  one that matters.

Klahn doesn't know the date of his 18th birthday? He's an even bigger loser
than I realized.

 BK>>  No, I mean at least three of us who served a full term. I mean
 BK>>  one combat veteran. I mean one career military. And I mean one
 BK>>  who served only 4 years. All honorable service, and far above
 BK>>  anything you chicken hawks ever did.

Let me see among these "chicken hawks" are Tim Richardson a
Vietnam vet (I don't mean he fixed things at Camp Pendleton for four years,
I mean he fought in country. I wouldn't bet money on it but I'm pretty sure
that Mr Massey is also a combat vet. As to the "No, I mean at least
three of us who served a full term" crack; Stan fulfilled more than
one full term; Tim fulfilled his full term (and I'm pretty sure he did a
second one also, Mr Massey fulfilled his full term and again I believe
there was a second full term; The following guys don't post in here but
back before Klahn and Sauer got lifetime banns from the other echo they
attacked the service of Vern, John H and the late Richard all of whom
fulfilled their commitment and Charles Doll who has passed on was a veteran
of the Battle of the Bulge. Men like the above are heroes, being heroes
they don't do what they did for glory, but for each other and also for the
rest of us. Klahn can besse my culo if he thinks anyone is going to revere
his service at the level as someone like any of the Johns, Mr Doll PBUH,
Tim and Richard. Richard had a rough mean side to him when it came to
people insulting things he held important. The reason the trio will never
fit in here is because they suffer the paucity of parents teaching them
manners. My generation (Baby Boomers) did a piss poor job of teaching our
children's generation manners.

 RC> Why arent you after Sauer for demeaning the service of those whom served
 RC> one or more terms?

 RC>>> He didnt serve, 42 days of basic followed by 23 days that
 RC>>> included:

I distinctly remember Sauer himself telling me that he doesn't consider
himself a vet and yet he steps back allowing the rest of the trio CYA for
him.

Hey, Sauer, do you remember telling me that? It was a bout 13 years ago.
Unlike you Ivy fulfilled his term in the Army. Do you remember telling me
that too?

 RC>>> He caught (and catches) this grief because he embellished
 RC>>> his service to score points in a debate that didnt require
 RC>>> said embellishment.


 RC> You are the one saying those without service shouldnt be critical of
 RC> those who are with, I submit to you that Sauer's position is no better
 RC> in contrast to the angst you have over the entire topic, now why arent
 RC> you setting the boy straight?

As a Navy wife for a very long time and as an entertainer for the USO I
served the guys (not many gals in those days) far longer than Sauer ever
did. When I retired from the USO to raise my kids and go back to school I
received a thank you letter from President Reagan, when my husband retired
from the Navy I got another thank you letter, this time from President
Clinton. The only thank you note Sauer ever got from the government was a
thank you for getting far away from us. The USAF would never take Sauer
back, he's an undesirable.


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