LAURIE CAMPBELL spoke thusly to: DICK ROEBELT
LC> DR>    Now please tell me why I am on their list in the first
LC> DR> place? 
   
LC>You fax number is on a CD of Business fax numbers.
   How so?  Did they issue a new CD in the past 3 weeks?  And how 
would they know it is a fax line?
LC> DR> Since the line that my fax machine is on has only been
LC> DR> installed for less than 3 weeks and only 4 of my clients have
LC> DR> that number; I have to assume that these guys are either one 
LC> DR> of the several who call every  number in a given geographic 
LC> DR> area and when they get a fax or computer tone, they make a
LC> DR> note of it or they purchase such data from those who 
LC> DR> do.  A very annoying practice!
LC>Chances are that you fax number was previously someone else's fax
LC>number.
   I only had it installed as a second line.  The phone company had no 
idea whether or not it would be used for voice, fax, data, or 
computer.
LC> No one has time to call every number in any 
LC>locality (except for phone rooms of telephone solicitors working 
LC>for slave wages - and they have to show a certain number of 
LC>sales every day to earn enough to pay those slave wages, which 
LC>isn't possible with broadcast faxing). 
   I wouldn't say that.  Many years ago when the first Commodore 64's 
came out one of the first major programs that was available (in 
certain circles) was a "war dialer."
   It would start at any number you set it for and it would continue 
to dial sequentially for days at a time.  The prg. would register all 
non-voice numbers it found.  Thus allowing you to "hack" those 
computer numbers that were found by the prg.
[...]
LC> DR>    Now I just finished reading PL 102-243 (47 USCA 
LC> DR> s.227).  It CLEARLY 
LC> DR> states that sending an unsolicited fax is against the law and
LC> DR> I am  entitled to damages ($500.00 minimum). In fact the
LC> DR> actual language  reads: "to use any telephone facsimile
LC> DR> machine, computer, or other  device to send an unsolicited
LC> DR> advertisement to a telephone facsimile  machine; or..."
LC>If it is totally against the law in your state, go for it.
   Perhaps you mis-read the post.  It is _FEDERAL_ law.
LC> In most places giving you the option of having your number 
LC>removed from that advertiser's list is all it takes to prove no 
LC>intent, and negates your case if you didn't take the option to 
LC>tell them a polite "no thanks" 
   My state has a compiled "no call" list.  But I refuse to pay the 
annual fee.  The federal law (above) instructs the Commission that 
anyone who wishes to be on such a list compiled by them (should they 
find it necessary to do so) will be listed free of charge. 
LC> DR>    And what lesson does it teach the children to allow
LC> DR> lawbreakers to run free, thumb their noses at the law, and
LC> DR> make a profit while doing so?
LC>If they are breaking the law in your state, the law has provision
LC>for you to make a mature response and set a good example to your
LC>offspring.
   Again, not a state law...a federal law.
LC> DR>    Some folks call the cops on lawbreakers.  Others dish it
LC> DR> back at them to show that they will not be victims.  Either
LC> DR> way, justice will be done.
LC>Dishing it back also shows that you don't mind breaking the law
LC>when it suits you.
   And when someone breaks the law but applying their fist to your 
face, do you stand there and take it or do you assume a defensive 
posture?
   Dick
   TheMerc@Juno.com
The gov't steals from you, on behalf of others...
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