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from: Nehemiah R Hall
date: 2003-03-17 22:21:52
subject: Re: [trekcreative] website

To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com
From: Nehemiah R Hall 
Reply-To: trekcreative{at}yahoogroups.com

This message is for MrMJM. Since you are only recently rejoining us, I am
blind. I have attempted to access your sight, and I regret to inform you it
is a blind person's nightmare. I am going to let you see what in part your
sight looks like to me.

pic8
pic1
pic2
pic2A
pic3
pic3A
pic4
pic5
pic6
pic6AA
pic6A
pic7
pic9
pic10
pic11


You see, we can only go on the text you give us. I have read some of your
work via the trek writer's guild, but I'd really like to get it from your
sight. TWG is very slow with updates. I hope you can do something about
this.
Sincerely,
Nehemiah

On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:32:25 -0800 Jay P Hailey  writes:
> > JM - You're older, more mature, and less impressed by such things.
>
>
> I should point out here that if Captain Hailey is a reaction to,
> and
> commentary upon the Mary Sue Captain,  then my webpage is a reaction
> to
> and commentary about the thundering hordes of Star Trek sites that
> -
>
> - Use colored text on a black background, or worse yet, a starry
> background
>
> - Use graphics inspired by trek  with the curved corners and the
> fat/thin
> lines
>
> - Use flash animation at best poorly
>
> -  have dozens of hops to jump through to get to a story
>
> -  and when you finally get to the story, you find three five page
> chunks
> and a "To be continued" with the notice "Last updated -
Apirl 14th,
>
> 1283"
>
> That just makes me *tired*
>
> Steve Oostrom's Athena Site,  Michael Gray's Dark Horizon Site and
> Joe
> Manno's Liberty Site are examples of reasonably well done pages,
> but
> they do use a lot of these similar tropes and color schemes.
>
> Our sites are about Trek fanfic so it's not unusual or even
> inappropriate
> to have them look like the control panels on the Entrprise
>
> But if someone's going to dial out on my stories because they
> *don't*
> look like Mike Okuda products.
>
> well then...
>
> I can't help that.
>
> So yeah if the TCR crowd as some suggests for subtly improving the
> look
> and substance of my webpage,  I am right there.
>
> any suggestion at all  will get a look
>
> but "rebuild it to look like an Okudagram"?
>
> It's been done, and done better than I can do it.
>
> Discussions about content aside -  Joe Manno's done it as well as it
> ever
> need to be done.
>
> I really like Michael Gray's Splash page and graphics, too.
>
> I appreciate the level of work and detail in Steve Oostrom's site.
>
> I want my site to reflect *me*,  not be a poor copy of the above.
>
>
> Jay P. Hailey ~Meow!~
> AIM - jayphailey03
> HTTP://phoenixinn.iwarp.com/jayphailey
>
> Bastille Day is Coming....
>
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