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echo: crossfire
to: Tom Walker
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2009-06-24 11:50:00
subject: (1/2) Welfare

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RW>>'contract' to be voided without compensation to the injured party, your
RW>>'fairness doctrine' would have to void such contracts. Of course, all of
RW>>this would be decided in court and not over O'bama's desk.

 TW> In case you are NOT paying atention Obamaa dosen't give a
 TW> dammn abotu hre Court. HE is going to pack it with those
 TW> Loyal the the Far Left Liberal Dogma.

 Ah, the prognosticator strikes again.

 Obama is far left only when measured against those of you who
 are far right. He gives in to the conservative view all too
 often.

 TW> And also he dosne't apparently give a damn about Legality
 TW> either and his Take Over of GM he directed the Bankrupsy
 TW> Judge to order is a perfect Example. Under Bankrupsy LAW
 TW> the UNIONS are shut out and can loose al and the Bond
 TW> Holders are given as much protection as possible.

 Not exactly true. Unions have a claim against the company as
 much as anyone else. The Unions got their share as part of the
 divestiture of the retiree medical burden. That was put on a
 fund run by the unions. Everything else is open.

 TW> Well the UNIONS didn't LOOSE anything and the Bond Holders
 TW> lost EVERYTHING.

 The unions don't really have anything in GM. The medical fund
 does not benefit the union, but the retirees. And that fund has
 GM stock in it, so the workers have more incentive to make the
 company succeed. If it doesn't the medical fund goes away.

 TW> The sad part in those old GM bonds were highly rated and a
 TW> part of lots of retirement packages meaning those least
 TW> capable of loosing were Screwed in favor of a UNION Pay off
 TW> for Political contributions.. ---

 And how was the union paid off? A non-voting seat on the board?
 A medical fund with worthless GM stock? Tell us how they were
 paid off.

 Oh, and the union's pension fund is also at risk here. So just
 how wonderful is that?


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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