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to: Tom Walker
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2009-06-25 07:57:00
subject: (1/2) Welfare

BK>> TW> More Klahn Mumbo Jumbo.
BK>> TW> Incresed productivity by the line worker DOES NOT raise his
BK>> TW> Salary and Obviously does not raise what he pays in social
BK>> TW> security Taxes.

BK>> Increased productivity means more is produced, so more people
BK>> can be supported by fewer workers. As it is we can probably now
BK>> produce all that is necessary with maybe 25% of our workforce.
BK>> All the rest produce wants, not needs.

 TW> Since there is NOT an Unlimited Sales Market any Increase in
 TW> Productivity typicaly means FEWER workers will be needed.

 Tom... that was the point. You are the one who said there will
 be fewer workers, I am saying fewer are needed. Gee... that
 should be obvious.

 TW> Are you a POT Head there Bob?? You seem to be missing
 TW> missing a brain Cells.

 You are obviously missing the ability to reason, since you
 revert to personal insults whenever your preconceived notions
 are challenged.

BK>> Then again, low unemployment means more of the elderly are
BK>> likely to be working, at least part time. A great many of the
BK>> retired go out and find second jobs. I see a lot of our retired
BK>> come back as instructors or consultants.

 TW> Getting a second job by a ful retiree DOES NOT lpwer the
 TW> load o nSociasecurity ny much at all. Teh SS piad by the
 TW> Senior Citices working a lower patying Job is litle to NO
 TW> help in making up the Sociual Security Deficit spending
 TW> form the FAKE trust Fund.

 The trust fund is not even necessary if we just shift 2% of gdp
 from other taxes to social security. If we reduce unemployment
 and lighten the load of medical care it becomes even easier.

BK>> TW> SO just WHERE is the help for the Crushing load of TOO many
BK>> TW> Receivers and TO Few Payers in that Liberal jiber jaber???.

BK>> More productivity means no crushing load. The money flow is
BK>> based on the production of goods and services. Increase the
BK>> production and you have more to allow more money flow. In the
BK>> end, it's all paid out of what is produced.

 TW> Only in your Perverted Liberal Brian Washed mind bob.
 TW> IF you can gather two brian cells together THINK about what
 TW> you are saying. IT is PURE Nonsense.

 Think about what you are saying, Tom, it is totally lacking in
 reason or facts. Which is why you have to resort to personal
 attacks.

 You said the number of workers per recipient will go down. I
 showed how the burden can be reduced by increased productivity.
 Unless you plan on the retired eating the money they have to
 have food and shelter etc, which is what is produced.

 As to my final comment above, it is always true that the bills
 are paid out of what is produced. Unless you can convince people
 that money with nothing to buy with it is worth something. That
 don't work in the long run.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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