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to: Paul Edwards
from: Bill Grimsley
date: 1995-07-30 08:50:12
subject: msged/sq 3.11 alpha

Paul, at 17:34 on Jul 29 1995, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

BG> Just like you're pretty sure your Spirit should not connect improperly, nor 
BG> double-send, nor sometimes fail to emit negotiation tones, right?

PE> If you have any questions about my Spirit echo, please ask in a
PE> more appropriate echo, and I'll give you an answer.

I've already asked, but you still haven't answered.  I still want to know
what the S2 manual states as the _default_ values for S9 & S10.

PE> It's basically the same as you had to do if you wanted a quick
PE> exit from the "message list" in the old version, you can't do
PE> it.  But the double-Alt-X is a good idea.

BG> Dunno, to replace the original intuitive Alt-A with Alt-X (which had 
BG> previously been used as a global exit) seems extremely retrograde to me.  

PE> It wasn't a global exit, only an exit from the main screen.

Sorry, global from almost everywhere except the area-list then.

BG> Presumably you realise that the help screens will now also need changing?

PE> I have done so already.

OK, it was a sudden afterthought.  Easy to forget, you know.

PE> P.S. Investigation reveals that it is "exit" not
"quit" that you need.

BG> OK, I'll try that later and let you know.

As promised, I'm letting you know.  It doesn't work.  :)

PE> And the principle remains the same, don't make assumptions about things not 
PE> working when you haven't tried them, and passing them off as facts, because 
PE> you were CERTAINLY WRONG, even though I was also a little bit wrong.

BG> Que?  You said "try this, it'll definitely work", so I
did, but it didn't 
BG> work at all.  Ergo, don't make assumptions about things working when you 
BG> haven't tried them, and attempt to pass them off as facts, because you were 
BG> CERTAINLY WRONG, and I was 100% correct.

PE> *I* didn't say it would definitely work, I originally said it MAY
PE> work, and then when you just replied with tripe, I yelled at you
PE> to try it instead of saying things like "that will exit" (which it
PE> didn't, but you made that up as a "fact" as you went along), and
PE> when I was yelling at you I hardened it from "may work" to
"pretty
PE> sure it will work", and I was bloody close. 

ROFL!  There are no degrees of incorrectness Paul.

PE> You were 0% correct, the readkey did NOT exit.  I was 90% correct, I had 
PE> the principle right, just not the correct keyword ("quit"
instead of 
PE> "exit").  

I hate to tell you this (I don't actually :)), but guess what "readkey
0x0061 exit" does here (hint: it certainly doesn't exit, that's for
sure)?

In fact, for some inexplicable reason, that statement does EXACTLY what I
was complaining about losing, a single-key redefinition to bring up the
area list (0x0061 is lower case "a").  It sure doesn't exit
though.  Weird.  No matter, having now programmed an F10 macro, I can
single-keystroke exit, so despite still having to remember one functional
change, I'm reasonably happy now.  :)

PE> If you can't see the keyword similarity, then that's your problem.  *I*
PE> was 90% correct.  The reason I thought it was quit was because that
PE> was the name of the internal function. 

Pity it ain't either then, wouldn't you say?  :)

In fact, it would appear that it is now impossible to exit Msged from
anywhere except the area list screen, but I am quite happy with _MY_
workaround (given that yours didn't work at all).

Re its stability though, it appears to run very well here.

Regards, Bill
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