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from: Ed Hulett
date: 2008-08-08 19:19:28
subject: Dems vs. BusHitler & Co.

JIM HOLSONBACK -> ALL wrote:

 JH> Yet another reason to NOT vote for Dems this election - - their
 JH> obsession with revenge against GWB, plus their sense of general
 JH> obligation to their important base on the hard left.

 JH> Obama has "flipped" against the hard left base on so many
issues since
 JH> clinching the nomination he will need to throw them at least some red
 JH> meat, should he win the election.

 JH> Some of the Fidoliberal usual suspects have posted their wet daydream
 JH> fantasies wrt this war crimes trials thing.  The Fidoliberals are easily
 JH> dismissed as fools, but these people are serious about this - - just
 JH> witness the mock-impeachment hearing last week which John Conyers' House
 JH> Judiciary Committee staged as a sop to the nutcase Dennis Kucinich.

 JH> -Source: The Corner, NationalReviewOnline
 JH> -Wednesday, August 06, 2008

 JH> -The Left and Plans for "Nuremberg-Style" Tribunals for
Bush Administration
 JH> -Officials [by Byron York]

 JH> -One thing that hasn't received much attention in conservative and
 JH> -Republicans circles is the ongoing conversation on the left about the
 JH> -possibility of Nuremberg-style war-crimes trials for members of the Bush
 JH> -administration should a Democratic president take office. I'm not
 JH> -exaggerating or introducing the Nazi analogy myself; they actually use
 JH> -the phrase "Nuremberg-style" when they discuss
"war-crimes tribunals."
 JH> -And they are quite serious (although the more moderate of them prefer a
 JH> -"truth commission.")

 JH> -At the Netroots Nation gathering in Austin, Texas last month - that is the
 JH> -successor to YearlyKos - Dahlia Lithwick, of the Washington-Post-owned
 JH> -website Slate, did an interview with the Talking Points Memo site in which
 JH> -she described a panel discussion she had just taken part in on what is
 JH> -known as the "first 100 days of accountability." Among Lithwick's
 JH> -observations:

 JH>  -"We're already falling into this trap of either positing
Nuremberg-style
 JH>  -war crimes tribunals, or nothing, immunizing everyone from John Yoo up
 JH>  -and down…but everybody says there's a lot of gray area in between that,
 JH>  -and that accountability doesn't necessarily mean Nuremberg, it doesn't
 JH>  -necessarily mean nothing, it means possibly a truth commission, possibly
 JH>  -appointing a special prosecutor to look at it."

 JH> -Lithwick recommended a massive retrospective investigation of the Bush
 JH> -administration, going through every piece of paper, before moving forward:

 JH>  -"Certainly long before we make a decision to do what Stuart Taylor
 JH>  -suggested this week, which was immunize everybody in advance, or
 JH>  -alternatively make a decision to trot them out before a war crimes
 JH>  -tribunal before the whole world, we should really find out what
 JH>  -happened."

 JH> She says that as if the Dems haven't already had study commissions,
 JH> investigations, hearings, etc. out the ying-yang. This may drag out for
 JH> decades if these nutjobs stay in power.- - JimH.

 JH> -But Lithwick recognized that there are those who argue such an action
 JH> -might be divisive:

 JH>  -"We talked a lot about this notion that it's bad for America, that it
 JH>  -will rip America apart if we have hearings or we have criminal trials or
 JH>  -if we have war crimes tribunals. And I think it's really worse for
 JH> America
 JH>  -if we don't."

 JH> -I think the thing to emphasize here is that this is a serious conversation
 JH> -going on among people who might have influential voices or play
 JH> influential
 JH> -roles in an Obama administration. Many of them want to put John Yoo ( a
 JH> -special favorite of theirs) on trial, whether before a Nuremberg-style
 JH> -tribunal, a criminal court, or a truth commission with as-yet unspecified
 JH> -powers. And, of course, they wouldn't stop with Yoo; if they had their
 JH> way,
 JH> -they would likely have a long list of former Bush administration officials
 JH> -to put in the dock. They are serious.

The idiot left is still stinging over Clinton having been impeached.

Ed

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and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the
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