TIM RICHARDSON -> BOB KLAHN wrote:
 TR> On 08-13-08, BOB KLAHN said to TIM RICHARDSON:


 TR>> sailed to several places during that cruise that were
 TR>> nowhere near Vietnam.


 BK>> That's what the Navy does.


 TR> Really?{at}##!

 TR> Gosh....I had no idea!


 BK>>> The second about three or four months,

 TR>> So.......Kerry actually spent less than the full one year
 TR>> that was the normal tour of the combat zone.


 BK>> Yep. Lot of people did. A salesman was trying to sell me
 BK>> something, can't recall what, some 30 years ago. We drifted off
 BK>> to general talk, and he showed his artifical leg. He told me he
 BK>> lost the lower part of his leg do to an accident his first day
 BK>> assigned to a patrol boat in Vietnam.


 TR> Gee....thats too bad. A lot of people were wounded.


 BK>>> in which he won the Silver Star and
 BK>>> the Bronze star, with V.


 TR>> Thats nice. He also (supposedly) tossed them away. Not to


 BK>> Irrelevant.


 TR> No...it isn't `irrelevant'. Kerry was running for president of the United
 TR> States. Kerry supposedly tossed his medals away. That is an act of
 TR> contempt.


 TR>> mention giving the enemy a propaganda victory by joining
 TR>> the likes of Jane Fonda (that `is' John Kerry in that photo
 TR>> with Fonda during a Vietnam War protest, is it not?) and


 BK>> If you mean the one on the platform, no, that was a fake.


 TR> The Washington Times, February 11, 2004


 TR> "A photograph of John Kerry together with Jane Fonda at an
anti-Vietnam War
 TR> rally in 1970 in Pennsylvania has surfaced on the internet, angering
 TR> veterans
 TR> who say his association with her 34 years ago is a slap in the face of
 TR> Vietnam
 TR> War veterans.


 TR> The photograph, taken at a Labor Day rally at Valley Forge, has been
 TR> circulating across the internet, particularly among veterans. "


 TR>> her ilk in protests. And did Kerry not actually go to Paris
 TR>> and `talk' to the Viet Cong?


 BK>> No, he talked to the North Vietnamese delegation.


 TR> The VVAW (Vietnam Veterans Against the War) sent their own
 TR> representatives to
 TR> Paris to meet with the representatives ot the National Liberation Front
 TR> (aka
 TR> the Viet Cong). John Kerry was one of those VVAW representatives who
 TR> went to
 TR> Paris at that time. By the way.........as a matter of interest, it is
 TR> against
 TR> the law for a private citizen to negotiate with representatives of foreign
 TR> countries without sanction of the U.S. government.


 TR> An excerpt of Kerry's opening statement to a senate committee on April 22,
 TR> 1971:


 TR> "I have been to Paris, I have talked with both delegations at the peace
 TR> talks,
 TR> that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional
 TR> Revolutionary Government......"


 TR> Kerry not only negotiated with the enemy, including the Viet Cong, he
 TR> went on
 TR> to recommend that we accept all of the enemies terms.


 TR> Also in Kerry's testimony to the senate committee, when asked about
 TR> possible
 TR> recriminations against 2000 or 3000 Vietnamese who might face political
 TR> assassination, Kerry said (*to* the senate committee):


 TR> "Yes, there will be some recrimination, but far, far less than the
 TR> 200,000 a
 TR> year who are murdered by the United States of America."


 TR>> Kerry also told a congressional committee that American
 TR>> troops were "murdering" 200,000 Vietnamese every year.


 BK>> He did? When? I have his statement before the Senate Committee,
 BK>> I don't recall that.


 BK>>> I recall you were in combat, did you win either of those or a
 BK>>> higher decoration?


 TR>> No........people in my division weren't allowed to write
 TR>> themselves up for medals.


 BK>> That's nice, neither were people in Kerry's unit. That's
 BK>> probably why his commanding officer wrote up his citations. You
 BK>> remember, the one who later joined the smearboat liars.


 TR>> But...I have rooom to talk also. I saw a lot more combat
 TR>> than Kerry did....spent a lot more time `in country' than
 TR>> Kerry did, and didn't treat with the enemy in Paris, or lie
 TR>> to Congress.


 BK>> Well, if Kerry's records were faked yours may be also. OTOH, He
 BK>> didn't "treat" with the enemy, since he would have to have
 BK>> something to offer.


 TR> My records are part of the Department of the Army. There is nothing fake
 TR> about
 TR> them. I am neither a politician nor an employee of D of A.


 TR> I have also never made running for office *about* my military service
 TR> record.
 TR> John Kerry did.


 BK>> And no one has yet shown that he lied to congress. Maybe that's
 BK>> why the republican keep quoting an edited version of what he
 BK>> said, cause it makes the truth look like a lie.


 TR> John Kerry used the words "....the 200,000 a year who are
murdered by the
 TR> United States of America." to a senate committee in his direct
testimony.


 BK>>> BTW, Kerry had significantly more time in combat than Bob Dole
 BK>>> did.


 TR>> And far less time than I did.


 BK>> Dole is widely considered a hero. Are you?


 TR> It isn't about being a hero. Its about *John Kerry* attempting to make his
 TR> military service record his `ticket' to the U.S. presidency. Along with his
 TR> military record came a lot of extra baggage that John Kerry `owns'. People
 TR> just made sure he got `all' his baggage when he presented his `claim
 TR> check'!


 TR> And now.......this has come to an end, and you will once more be completely
 TR> ignored in future.

A good idea because no matter how many facts you place before him it will
never convince him that he's just wrong and even if you were to convince
him he'd never admit it. He doesn't have the cajones to admit his mistakes.

-- 
L'Chaim,
Mimi

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