From: rfischer{at}sonic.net (Ray Fischer)

stumper   wrote:
>Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:45:32 -0400, in alt.atheism
>> stumper  wrote in
>> :
>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:20:43 -0400, in alt.atheism
>>>> stumper  wrote in
>>>> :
>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 5:47 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 10:39 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 9:32 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007
19:06:28 -0400, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Free Lunch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 24 Mar
2007 11:07:54 -0400, in alt.atheism
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaime G wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article
,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do
you know that you are not being deceived every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If results
are predictable, then one is hardly being deceived.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What makes you think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the world has
to be so regular and coherent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Observation shows
that it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other way around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It cannot but appear that way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because we are
assuming the physical world
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be regular and
coherent to make it predictable.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What? The observations are
consistent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no way to prove that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the physical world is
actually that way everywhere.
>>>>>>>>>>>> So what? Science isn't
about proof, it's about evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We already have some
reasons to believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is not the case
in quantum physics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But no other.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is absolutely no
reason to assume that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> God should exist
physically as well as spiritually.
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is absolutely no
evidence to support any claims about any
gods,
>>>>>>>>>>>> even the one you are trying to sell.
>>>>>>>>>>> Have you ever fallen in love
with anyone?
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>> "Ever fallen in love with
someone, ever fallen in love with someone,
>>>>>>>>>> ever fallen in love with someone
you shouldn't have.."
>>>>>>>>>> PDW, who's guitar is in the shop..
>>>>>>>>> God is everything there ever was, is,
will be, and some more.
>>>>>>>>> Do we still need to prove God's existence?
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>> "Jesus died for somebodie's sins, but
not mine.."
>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>> Do you believe in the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>
>>>>> Any interest?
>>>> Got evidence?
>>>
>>> Did you read the Wikipedia article?
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_jesus
>>>
>>> I read several books that basically
>>> accepted the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth.
>>>
>>> Do you have reason to doubt it?
>>
>> I don't care one way or another if there was a rabbi with the name we
>> call Jesus who had a bunch of followers. There is no evidence the
>> supernatural claims about him are true.
>
>Most scholars don't buy
>any miracles or supernatural allusions either.
>Me neither.
>
>But even without them, it is clear that
>something powerful happened there.
>And it was definitely wonderful not evil.

Some people wanted the power and the fame of priesthood while making other
people do as told.

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Ray Fischer
rfischer{at}sonic.net

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