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to: Mimi Gallandt
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2008-08-20 02:03:02
subject: Technology (was Re: Internet Explorer)

Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG> Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:

 MG>>>>> There are many things today that would amaze daddy, not the
 MG> least of
 MG>>>>> which is how the Disney Corp has ruined Walt's dream.

 EH>>>> I'm sure he would.

 MG>>> Walt built Disneyland "for the child in all of
us", there's very
 EH>> little
 MG>>> magic left in the Magic Kingdom. I think the idea behind California
 MG>>> Adventure was a good idea that failed in the execution.

 EH>> California usually ruins anything that was once a good idea. :-)

 MG> I think it's a safe bet that you and I are never going to agree about
 MG> California, but what I was talking about is Disney's California
 MG> Adventure. There are now 2 parks at the Disneyland Resort. IIRC
 MG> Orlando's Disney has five parks in its resort. I, personally *LOVE*
 MG> California Adventure, but *I* know a lot of CA's history which enhances
 MG> the experience for me. What I meant about it being a good idea that
 MG> failed in its execution is that DCAA doesn't really have much appeal to
 MG> people between the ages of 10 and 30 whereas Disneyland was, as I said
 MG> before, built "for the child in all of us"

I visited Disneyland 25 years ago just so I could say I was there. Even in
my late 20s I had a good time.

 MG>>>>> I'm not sure that daddy would be all that impressed with cell
 EH>>>> phones, he was a licensed
 MG>>>>> Ham radio operator and cell phones use the same
sound waves that
 EH>> Hams
 MG>>>>> do/did (do Hams still exist?)

 EH>>>> I'm a licensed HAM operator. I hold a Amateur General Class HAM
 MG>>> license.
 EH>>>> And yes, we still exist. :-)

 EH>>>> Cellphones use parts of the 800, 900, 1900MHz and 3GHz bands.

 EH>>>> HAMs have privileges in parts of those bands as well for
 EH>>>> experimentation. There is no conflict between the two services,
 MG>>> though.

 MG>>> I didn't phrase my thought well, I meant that cell phones are a
 EH>> natural
 MG>>> progression from shortwave (HAM) radios, not that they use the same
 MG>>> bands as HAMs.

 EH>> The cellphone as we know it today was invented in Israel. HAMs have
 MG> had

 MG> I hope you won't be disappointed when you read this and learn that
 MG> doesn't surprise me; Israel is on the cutting edge of technology.

Yes, they are. Unfortunately, Israel is also one of the world's main
sources of computer viruses, too.

 MG> Like San Diego has always been on the edge of aerospace technology. There's a
 MG> building on Pacific Highway (not to be confused with Pacific Coast
 MG> Highway)

Pacific Highway is old 99 and goes from SD to the Canadian border. I live
not far from Pacific Highway which parallels I-5.

 MG> that today hosts Spa War (something being done by McDonald
 MG> Douglas), in its incarnation just previous to Spa War it was General
 MG> Dynamics between that incarnation and its incarnation during WWII when
 MG> it was Convair there have been other aerospace companies in that same
 MG> building.

Cool. Western Washington is known as the Silicon Forest. :-)

 EH>> the technology quite a bit longer. VHF and UHF radios still have a
 MG> DTMF
 EH>> keypad on them just like a telephone. I can make a phone call using my
 EH>> VHF/UHF radio as long as I access a repeater with a phone patch. The
 EH>> only problem is everyone else can here the conversation. It is also
 EH>> against regulations to use HAM radio for commercial use. Most HAMs use
 EH>> VHF/UHF phone patches to call and tell their non-HAM spouse that they
 EH>> are on their way home or some such.

 EH>> As the ARRL motto goes, "When all else fails, Amateur Radio."

 MG> I know that when really big disasters happen it's the Hams who get
 MG> things moving.

Exactly. Amateur Radio is always there after a disaster helping coordinate
help for those effected. HAMs are often the only link between the various
federal, state and local emergency services.

Ed

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