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to: mark lewis
from: Roy Witt
date: 2005-03-29 12:18:48
subject: Texas Speeds

Hello mark.

28 Mar 33 10:09, you wrote to me:

 RW>> I was there in November. On my way, driving my 88 IROC, I
 RW>> noticed some headlights in the rearview mirror coming on
 RW>> fast. I was doing the Texas daytime speed-limit of 70mph
 RW>> + 5mph. I slowed to 70mph, then 65mph (night speed-limit)
 RW>> as the headlights got closer and closer. When the
 RW>> headlights finally caught up to me and passed me like I
 RW>> was sitting still, it was a Texas Ranger - Ford Victoria.
 RW>> I could easily outrun that car in my 98 Z28 Camaro (PCM
 RW>> speed-limiter programmed off), but the radio in the Vic
 RW>> would have troopers waiting for me down the road.

 ml> yeah, there's always the radio... no way to outrun one of them...
 ml> unless you have a jammer O:)

Even that won't do you much good. The way to do it is to have a police
radio yourself. Course, most states make using one for that purpose is
against the law.

 ml> i mean, i agree with jay's reply about how they don't want a long
 ml> chase... all i know is what i saw when i was there in the mid
 ml> 80's... cooling fins all over the place under the hood and lottsa
 ml> piping to and from those fins...

I'll betcha they're more for summer time cooling than they are for the
chase. Having them may help in that chase though.

 ml> and actually, i need to correct myself... i was in western oklohoma
 ml> where i saw this vehicle... but i was in texas at least once every
 ml> three days for a full work day...

Well, being in OK is almost like being in Texas. I used to take I-40
across New Mexico and cut up US-54 from Tucumcari, which goes through
the very NW corner of Texas for a couple of miles and then into OK and
on to Kansas, etc..

 ml> the vehicle that i saw was a 'vette confiscated from a drug
 ml> dealer... the cops didn't put it in the auctions but instead
 ml> decided to keep it as a "low profile" patrol car... the explanation
 ml> given to me about all the fins was for cooling and that with them,
 ml> they could simply outlast runners who's vehicles overheated from
 ml> the stress of running at highspeed...

A four inch radiator core would do the same thing.

 ml> i'm sure that there are some, as jay mentioned, super souped up
 ml> patrol cars but i'd imagine that they are intended for the "short
 ml> bursts" so as to, as jay also mentioned, terminate the chase very
 ml> quickly...

More likely than not.

 ml> we had a trooper around here with a Mustang 5.0... there were times
 ml> that he did race that vehicle against some of the kids fast
 ml> vehicles... if he won, they got a ticket of some sort... i forget
 ml> the details of everything but they did end up taking his 5.0 away
 ml> from him for a little while... he got it back a year or so later
 ml> and was a bit more reserved and IIRC he has left the force since
 ml> then...

Wish he'd have gotten a job here. My Z28 can outrun a 5.0 any day. Even
a police 5.0...in fact, California dropped all of the mudstains and
bought Z28s to take their place. Arizona did the same thing, only they
replaced them with 3rd gen Camaro IROCs. Haven't seen anything but
Ford Crown Vics on Arizona highways these days.


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