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from: `bluesmama` onebluesmama
date: 2005-03-22 12:01:00
subject: Re: War and Gender

USA wrote:
> On 21 Mar 2005 07:01:01 -0800, "bluesmama"

> wrote:
>
> >
> >bluesmama wrote:
> >> Looks like it might be an interesting read - anyone read it?
> >>
> >>
> >> "Gender roles are nowhere more prominent than in war. Yet
contentious
> >> debates, and the scattering of scholarship across academic
> >disciplines,
> >> have obscured understanding of how gender affects war and vice
versa.
> >>
> >> In this authoritative and lively review of our state of knowledge,
> >> Joshua Goldstein assesses the possible explanations for the
> >near-total
> >> exclusion of women from combat forces, through history and across
> >> cultures.
> >>
> >> Topics covered include the history of women who did fight and
fought
> >> well, the complex role of testosterone in men''s social behaviors,
> >and
> >> the construction of masculinity and femininity in the shadow of
war.
> >>
> >> Goldstein concludes that killing in war does not come naturally
for
> >> either gender, and that gender norms often shape men, women, and
> >> children to the needs of the war system.
> >>
> >> lllustrated with photographs, drawings, and graphics, and drawing
> >from
> >> scholarship spanning six academic disciplines, this book provides
a
> >> unique study of a fascinating issue."
> >>
> >> =A9 2001 Joshua S. Goldstein
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.warandgender.com/
> >
> >A review - apparently the author admits he writes from a
"pro-feminist
> >perspective" just in case you're interested.
>
> No kidding?!?  Golly!  I'd have never guessed from the crap you
posted
> above about it.  Doh!
>
> Just the line: "Topics covered include the history of women who did
> fight and fought well: is a dead giveaway that this is Feminist
> Crapola written by some pussy man professor type.

You'd see it that way. I saw it as an attempt to include both sexes in
a discussion of war.

> For every woman who fought and possibly even "fought well" how many
> men have done the same throughout HIStory?  Bet the book doesn't say.
>
> The book is mighty expensive toilet paper.

I'm sure there's not a single word of truth in the whole book. God
forbid someone who thinks differently than you might have something
worthwhile to say.



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