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echo: r_catholic
to: Syd
from: stumper
date: 2007-03-27 15:52:02
subject: Re: In what sense does God exist for you?

From: stumper 

Syd wrote:
> On Mar 26, 4:10 pm, stumper  wrote:
>> Syd wrote:
>>> On Mar 25, 5:38 pm, stumper  wrote:
>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>> On Mar 25, 10:36 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 8:16 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 24, 11:29 am, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Syd wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:58 pm, stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 23, 4:35 pm,
stumper  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syd M. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stumper
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For most
unsophisticated people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atheism is
just another belief system like theism.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any
faith in the scientific method?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No faith is requared, Stupir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>>>> More then I trust a
"revealed religeon".
>>>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>>>> Wonderful.
>>>>>>>>>> To do what?
>>>>>>>>>> Everything?
>>>>>>>>>> Do you trust the scientific method
>>>>>>>>>> in figuring out how to distribute wealth?
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>>>> What the hell are you mubling about?
>>>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>>>> There are many problems in the world
>>>>>>>> that cannot be solved by the scientific method.
>>>>>>>> It's useless in matters of value judgment.
>>>>>>>> The matter of God is probably one of them.
>>>>>>>> God's existence is not a matter of physical fact.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>>>> Cutting and pasting a reply does not make that
reply any more useful,
>>>>>>> Stuper..
>>>>>>> PDW
>>>>>> How do you know that the universe exists?
>>>>>> How do you go about proving its existence?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Stumper
>>>>> Well, if I stub my toe on it, it's real.
>>>>> What do you do to test reality?
>>>>> PDW
>>>> If many people say they believe in God,
>>>> that's good enough for me.
>>>> I would say, "Whatever!"
>>>> If they try to kill me in the name of God,
>>>> I would probably try to figure out what God is
>>>> instead of denying its existence.
>>>> I would ask:
>>>> In what sense does God exist for you?
>>>> Care to tell me how God exists?
>>>> --
>>>> ~Stumper
>>> God does not exist for me, lunkhead. I am an unbeliever.
>>> How many times does this has to be explained to you?
>>> PDW
>> You need to do a paradigm shift first to understand.
>>
>> God is better handled by social science
>> than by natural science.
>>
>> My working hypothesis for this week is this:
>> God is a world government in exile.
>>
>> God as the world government in exile is
>> working hard to take over the world.
>>
>> Can you afford to ignore it?
>>
>> --
>> ~Stumper
>
> Yes, actially, I can afford to. If it makes you scream any louder..
>
> PDW
>

Can't you tell I'm not a Christian Fundamentalist, dear fellow?

If you do just a little bit of Seon/Zen training, you would not be attached
to your self. Then, you will never scream unless you wanna wake up someone.

--
~Stumper

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