"TIM RICHARDSON -> DAVE DRUM"  wrote in
news:29655$POL_INC{at}JamNNTPd:

 DD>> However, the
 DD>> Stalinist wing of the Repugs certainly accused those who verbally
 TR> and DD>strongly disagreed with the puppet president, George III of
 TR> having a DD>"pathological hatred" of not only that
administration, but
 TR> America itself.


 TR> *The Stalinist wing*? Are you even on the same planet we are?
 TR> *Repugs*? You begin to sound a lot like Otto Sauer. Hmmmmm

He doesn't sound a bit like my Dad.
Are you people still stupid enough to continue this? Looks that way.

 DD>> * 67 percent of Republicans (and 40 percent of Americans overall)
 DD>> believe that Obama is a socialist.


 TR>> Much of the healthcare bill foisted on America by this president
 TR> is for TR> the `have nots' at the expense ofthe `haves'. Thats
 TR> socialism.

You wouldn't know a socialist if one kicked you in the behind.
A *REAL* socialist, the head of the US Socialist Party said flat out
that Obama and his policies are not socialist.
But, Rush and Beck say Obama is socialist, so you buy what they ladle
out out, hook, line and sinker.

 DD>> I agree. Why, then, do the wing-nuts make such a big deal of it?
 TR> ... as DD>they did in past with Jack Kennedy's Catholicism.


 TR> Talk to the `wing-nuts' about that. Know any?

Michael Savage. Another of your gurus.

 DD>> * 45 percent of Republicans (25 percent overall) agree with the
 DD>> Birthers in their belief that Obama was "not born in the United
 DD>> States and so is not eligible to be president"


 TR>> There has never been a `bonified' birth cedrtificate produced,
 TR> showing TR> that this president was born in the place it is claimed he
 TR> was born.


 DD>> Nor has there needed to be.


 TR> Yes....there has. Ever since he first started campaigning. That point
 TR> is very clear.


 TR> Article II


 TR> Section 5.


 TR> "No person except a natural-born citizen, or a citizen of the United
 TR> States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be
 TR> eligible to the office of President; ......"


 TR> It is not for us to prove he *wasn't*......it is for him to prove that
 TR> he *was*! So far.......he has not given any positive proof whatever
 TR> that he is in compliance with Section 5, Article II.


 DD>> Don't you think that if someone had even a
 DD>> shred of evidence that the current occupant of the oval office was
 TR> NOT DD>able to claim native-born status that they would have come
 TR> forward, long DD>since.


 TR> Don't you think that if there were in fact *absolute proof positive*
 TR> he is in compliance with Article II, Section 5 of the U.S.
 TR> Constitution, it would have been brought forward long since, and put
 TR> this issue to rest? So far, that has not happened.

Yeah, those birth announcements from the *TWO* Hawaiian newspapers are
all part of the Satanic/Illuminati/Mason/Flying Saucer/Time Traveler's
plot.

 DD>> These numbers all come from a brand-new Harris poll, inspired in
 TR> part by a DD>new book Wingnuts. It demonstrates the cost of the
 TR> campaign of fear and DD>hate that has been pumped up in the service of
 TR> hyper-partisanship over the DD>past 15 months. We are playing with
 TR> dynamite by demonizing our president DD>and dividing the United States
 TR> in the process. What might be good for DD>ratings is bad for the
 TR> country.


 DD>> The poll, which surveyed 2,230 people right at the height of the
 DD>> health-care reform debate, also clearly shows that education is a
 TR> barrier DD>to extremism.


 TR> I just happen to notice something. Your `poll' surveyed 2,230 people?


 TR> The disapproval of citizens in the country for this bill was well over
 TR> the top. Had it been put on a national ballot it would have been voted
 TR> down.

No doubt *AFTER* the right-wing noise machine cranked up to 11, spewing
lies like "death panels."

 TR>> In an America where violent radicals such as Bill Aires and
 TR> Bernadine TR> Dohrn, instead of inhabiting prison cells for the
 TR> domestic terrorism TR> they engaged in and encouraged, are esconced in
 TR> teaching positions in TR> one of our universities, what is the exact
 TR> value of a `college' TR> education? Just how complete, and wide
 TR> -viewed an education could be TR> expected?


 DD>> Bill Ayers (correct spelling) and Bernadine Dohrn and even Angela
 TR> Davis DD>are hardly the mainstream of American Higher Education.


 TR> Bill Ayers (correct spelling be damned), Dohrn, and Angela Davis
 TR> shouldn't even be teaching `higher education'; they all ought to still
 TR> be in prison.

Bill Ayers didn't get convicted due to the FIB...I mean FBI completely
botching the case.

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