Hello Robert.

27 May 04 19:48, you wrote to me:

RC>> The ZCC echo has been private since it's inception.  Why all of a
RC>> sudden do you care now?  You didn't before this.

RB|> Are you talking to me?

Yes :)

RB|> All I'm doing is pointing out that it's folly to believe any echo
RB|> could be kept private, and that attempting to enforce that in the case
RB|> of an echo whose content affects fido as an organization, at a time
RB|> where the people concerned disagree among themselves what, how and why
RB|> things were written is a sure way to lose confidence and trust.

Sudden requiring that the ZCC echo be made public after how long that it
was private is a sure way to form an opinion that was not there until Ward
pulled his act.

No matter how yopu look at it, people are going to twist this to whatever
they want to twist it to.  Z2 people are trying to force things into being
that are just not there.

That the ZCC plots behind that backs of sysops is one.

RB|> I'm also addressing _all_ the ZCs although I'm in Z2 because all of
RB|> them are involved in something that is detrimental to fido. I didn't
RB|> do that before either, since there was no reason to do so. But there
RB|> is now.

They have done nothing detrimental to Fido.  What they did was a boon to
FidoNet - they removed an IC that was doing things against Policy.

Whether or not you agree with what was done is irrelevent as it was done
according to Policy.

It would take an illogical brain to state that the IC must be the one to
call for his own removal.

It is incorrect to suggest that Section 8 of Policy be used to remove an IC
as one Z2 node suhhested recently.  That is only for Policy changes and ZC
impeachments.

Now, instead of Ward continuing to beleive that he is IC and that is
monstrosity that was his edict is in force, perhaps he should act like a
mature individual and step aside.  Let Malcom do something for the
betterment of all of FidoNet.

Let everyone quit bemoaning things and look to making improvements that all
can work within.

There was on rather good proposal from a Z2 sysop in FN_SYSOP about using a
log10 weighted vote.  It made some sense and might actually work.

Unlike Ward's Z2 is the lord over everyone which is not the right way to do
things.  It alienates too many and makes Z2 look like Ogres.

Robert

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