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echo: pol_inc
to: ROSS SAUER
from: TIM RICHARDSON
date: 2010-04-04 09:19:00
subject: On the Census

On 04-03-10, ROSS SAUER said to TIM RICHARDSON:


To the moderator of ALL-POLITICS: I'm moving this reply to a different echo.


TR> Another thing that gripes my guts:


TR> The puke in the White House today is `supposedly' some sort of former
TR> professor of Constitutional law. If he is....he must have slept
TR> through most of his classes in law school, and `affirmative-actioned'
TR> his way through the bar exam, `cause pretty much the entire health
TR> care he just signed into law is completely unconstitutional. He in
TR> fact defies the Constitution by signing it into law! He hasn't read
TR> it.....the vast majority of democrats in either house haven't read it
TR> (nor have most republicans, but to their everlasting credit, at least
TR> none of them voted for it ), and yet they signed it and the puke in
TR> the White House made it the law of the land!


RS>If the Health Care bill is unConstitutional, it will be ruled on by
RS>federal courts.


Here's got to be the quickest `switcheroo' you've ever pulled!


You are pretty much convicting people without trial in yesterday's message
packet.......and today......you want to wave `the federal courts' flag!



RS>But these 100% REPUBLICAN state politicians throwing their tantrum are
RS>just swimming in such huge surpluses, that they have so much money to
RS>waste on these idiotic lawsuits. (sarcasm off)


Yet here, you go back to bitching because citizens and their state governments
avail themselves of the courts!


If the citizens of these United States decided that the money they pay for
*your* medical and upkeep was a waste of their resources, and stopped sending
it to you, would you want someone....possibly the state attorney general in
your state to stand up for you and take your case to court? Would you think
*that* was wasted money on an idiotic lawsuit? (no sarcasm intended)


I want the state attorney general in California to join those lawsuits on
behalf of myself and every other citizen who sees the blatant un-
Constitutionality of this health care Hussein just signed into law. He won't
of course, this state has been choked by democrat control for many decades.


Does the fact that few, if any, democrats who cobbled this monstrosity
together, even know what all's in the bill, bother you at all? That they
haven't even studied their own bill before voting `for' it, and sending it to
a president to sign who *also* doesn't know what all's in it, doesn't cause
you any concern about how our country runs? It should.



TR> As the states that filed suit to opt out of it pass laws that exempt
TR> them from it, that means that the states that did *not* file or join
TR> suits against it (like California), will have to take up the financial
TR> slack of those states that do not pay into it. Maybe the feds will try
TR> to force all states to participate, regardless of what they pass into
TR> law themselves, and the feds will then, at last, be forced into the
TR> open and be called publicly, what they've been, unspokenly, for
TR> several decades, now: a tyrant. A tyrant in need of overthrowing!


RS>"Overthrowing," how?


By the ballot box. The ballot box is a powerful weapon in this country, sadly
underused for several decades.



RS>Like every other wannabe far-right "patriot," you'll let
someone else do
RS>it.


I went in the Army, went to Vietnam and fought in the war.


*You* couldn't handle Air Force basic training, got discharged after only two
months, and went home to mommy. Look who's accusing who of being a `wannabe'.


And in that short two months you `served'....you claimed to have worked on A-
10 Warthogs, (then new) Sidewinder missiles, and played cribbage with a
general! *Wannabe*? I'd have stayed away from that one if I were in your
shoes, bubba!


And....by the ballot box, some laws and entitlements need to be looked at a
little more closely, to determine the wisdom of continuing to pour taxpayer's
money into a shithole in support of people who won't get up off their lazy ass
and go to work to support themselves!



TR> The left wing brickbats are quick to defend homosexuality,
TR> homosexuals, their parades, their `so-called gay rights' movements,
TR> their right to serve openly in the military, their `right' to be
TR> protected from being called `faggots', or `homos' (thats considered
TR> hate speech, and will soon be a federal crime, if it isn't already).



RS>Fred Phelps loves those terms.



So, it would seem, do you:


"Grow up yourself, gayboy." ..........Otto Sauer (the `Otto'
Sauer who posts
in Fido, and not his father)


"And you're a sleezy faggot,"  ..........Otto Sauer (the `Otto' Sauer who
posts in Fido, and not his father)



TR> They go right to the homo slams, usually the very first thing out of
TR> the hat!


RS>You mean exposing the closeted gay-bashing rabble-rousers.


Who were you `exposing' here:

"They're Homos!" ........Otto Sauer (the `Otto' Sauer who posts
in Fido, not
his father)


Or here:



"Fag!" .......Otto Sauer (the `Otto' Sauer who posts in Fido, not
his father)


And I wonder what a psychologist would say about this little gem:


"I dreamed I had Bush, Rove, Cheney and Rummy porking me up the bum." ....
...Otto Sauer (the `Otto' Sauer who posts in Fido, not his father)



TR> I wonder at the failure of Barney Frank, and a few others, to see the
TR> two- facedness of this. Then again....Barney Frank ain't exactly the
TR> smartest whip in the rack, is he?


TR> And the real comical thing about that is.....the homosexual segment of
TR> our society also fails to see the two-faced irony of it! They cannot
TR> see how revealing it is of the `real' feelings of their defenders,
TR> that, when their defenders want to really belittle, demonize, degrade
TR> and insult their enemies, they always use homo slams as part of their
TR> campaign of destruction; it is in fact, their weapon of choice!


RS>I realize that gays scare you shitless.


Nobody's `scared shitless' of anything so disgusting. Offended sense of
decency would be a better term. Although `you' might be scared shitless of the
truth. And scared shitless of anyone who holds opposing views from yours, and
openly expresses those views.



RS>You and Bill Donohue, the heart and stupidity of the Catholic League.



You are another one who seeks to silence any opposition with vile insults and
false, baseless accusations. The best counter to that is to continue
expressing one's opinion publicly. The more baseless and false the accusations
get, the better. It only further exposes your determination to silence others
with such tactics.






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