Rod, at 07:25 on Aug 18 1995, you wrote to Bill Grimsley...

RS> True, one of the neighbors kids is just doing that sort of thing
RS> now, in the most spectacular fashion, AVO, the full catastrophe.

BG> BTW, WTF is AVO (don't you just love acronyms) ?

RS> Apprehended Violence Order. Not much better |-)

We call them Domestic Violence Orders up here.  Or used to, dunno now.

RS> You trot along to the court and say that particular person
RS> has been behaving violently etc and the court tells them to stop
RS> doing that and that they will be in deep shit if they do it again.

Yeah, that's exactly the same thing as a DVO.

RS> In this particular case, he was an apprentice at the car dealership
RS> is dad works at as a used car salesman. Ignored what he was told
RS> about having all work he did inspected by the workshop foreman whatever,
RS> 4WD went out and failed very expensively. He got sacked. He has been
RS> round there behaving like a hoon apparently, presumably drunk etc.

Are you saying that this fellow's father took out the AVO?  Bloody hell.

RS> I cant help feeling humans must have evolved like that, it basically
RS> provides the drive to get them moving away from the parents etc.

BG> Quite likely, although I'd be more than happy to provide that drive myself.

RS> Yeah, many feel that way |-)

Too conservative.  Try "most".  Or maybe even "all".  :)

BG> It's rather interesting to see individual teenagers who are
BG> perfect little angels on their own, yet put them in a group and
BG> they'll happily kick a pensioner to death, just for the hell of it.

RS> True. And thats precisely what effect the military
RS> plays up to get them to die for their country too.

True, good point.

BG> Dunno why, but it certainly ain't boredom
BG> (uncontrolled primal instincts perhaps?).

RS> Hormones raging. Some even turn into very decent people eventually.

An interesting comment, as some of the most decent people I know were utter
little shits as children and teenagers (then again, I was no angel either).

BG> Indeed, if you believe him, we're now so stupid that
BG> I don't know how we even made it to middle age myself.  :)

RS> Yeah, amazing how very obvious stuff like that just gets ignored.

BG> Which only proves how thick the little shits really are, IMO.

RS> Dunno that thick is really the word.

True, but it's how I feel about the little bastards...

RS> Most of that stuff is going straight over their heads.  Quite a few can 
RS> look back on it later and realise what total pricks they were at that age.

It's probably the vast majority who can do that.  And you too, I take it?  :)

RS> Doesnt always allow them to handle it any better when
RS> its their own kids repeating it a generation later tho.

I have this vision of ancient Greeks sitting around in their togas...

Regards, Bill
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