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to: ROB MCCART
from: Tracker1
date: 2008-05-21 20:05:04
subject: Re: Compiling Software

ROB MCCART wrote:
>>> Tests run about a year ago by Symantec showed that Firefox (anything
>>> Mozilla based) had more 'serious vulnerabilities' than MSIE.. (21 vs 13)
>> 
>> Unfortunately, that's an apples/oranges comparison.. Firefox is OpenSource,
>> so you get "all known" vulnerabilities, vs. whatever MS
published or
>> others found...
> 
> It wasn't MS that did the test..  Aren't Fire Fox vulnerabilities
> those found by 'others' as well ? If the writers knew about them
> they wouldn't have left them there, one assumes..

It's *MUCH* easier to find vulnerabilities with the source available, which is 
where firefox is... where everything found is published, so to speak.. the
MS/IE vulnerabilities is only what MS discloses, not the "entire
list" so to 
speak... and, yeah sometimes vulnerabilities *do* get left in place, 
especially when the patch may affect other pieces of software, and proper 
testing needs to take place, or the fix may be too broad to make a quick 
patch.  The *fact* fact that there aren't any new updates for IE users other 
than on XP, means any holes out there, are affecting *many* users and will 
never be fixed/available from MS.

>> fair enough.. but the noscript extension for FF makes it easier than 
>> in IE, unless Maxthon now has an easy way to add a site to a different
>> zone with a click..
> 
> No, not one by one for sites as far as I know..
> I just automatically have it off for everything other than
> my banking sites, which require Java Script and Cookies.

that works as well..

>> I would be surprised if you couldn't find a theme that
>> was close, and extensions for FF that matched *every*
>> feature in Maxthon you liked.
> 
> It's customizable with user added tools if you like as well
> as having things like a "Simple Collector" window where you
> can drag a link or picture to from a web page and it will
> put the picture wherever you've set it up to or give you
> the full address of the link without opening it so you can
> forward it easily or grab part of it which can let you do
> a DL using a DL Manager at sites that don't support them..
> One click to start or stop opening a link in a new tab or
> not without it closing existing tabs.. things like that..

There are a plethora of extensions for Firefox that do about
everything under the sun.

> Like anything, when you use something all the time you
> get used to how it works and everything else feels 'odd'..
> 
> Plus it becomes a whole big mess..  FF won't use MS Java
> so you have to download Sun Java which is 4 or 5 times the
> size, etc..

MS java is outdated, and many plugins on web sites don't work
properly in MS's java in any case.. in addition you can't even
download MS's java anymore, and it no longer comes with windows.

> Then, of course, you would want to change your e-mail
> client as well and then figure out how to get virus
> scanning running for all this new stuff..
> 
> It's not a job you'd have fun doing unless you really
> needed it for some reason..    B)

I wasn't aware that Maxthon included an email client...

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