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echo: philos
to: FRANK MASINGILL
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1998-01-19 19:21:00
subject: `TITANIC`

 ++> From Frank Masingill to D. Martorana
 ++> responses on "Titanic"
 
 DM>> It was a nice top off as I had seen the movie "Titanic" on the large
 DM>> screen earlier in the day .....and it was one of the most powerful 
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 DM>> experiences I've ever had .......a closest to being there. I believe we
 DM>> are not far from epic synthesized realities (not "quite" holodeck
 DM>> ......yet! .
 
 FM> This continued popularity of the Titanic story which has netted
 FM> so many book and movie dollars is, I find, quite interesting.
 FM> Hardly ever mentioned any longer is the fact which was foremost
 FM> in the minds of people regarding the Titanic tragedy when I was a
 FM> child - that sending an ocean liner on a voyage without sufficient
 FM> lifeboats was a consciously foolish act of supreme hubris.
 
     The lack of adequate lifeboats is covered within the film and before
     the actual sinking as was the somewhat reluctance to fire the final
     4 boilers when the speed was already stepping out. As for "hubris",
     there was no shortage of it then ......and none now (sort of goes
     with our species!).
 
 FM> Probably more than any other incident it typifies the extent to which
 FM> (I won't use the word ideology because some appear to resist its
 FM> harmful effects) the popular mind had been brought to trust modernity.
 
     Frank, you must have missed my posting where I accepted your
     definition of "ideology".
 
  
 
 FM> Has our naivete decreased?  I don't really know.  What has actually
 FM> happened in this century SHOULD make a lasting impression on humanity
 FM> but I think it would be to bold and unwarranted to assert that it has.
 FM> Philosophers don't and SHOULDN'T have the power to guarantee some
 FM> program to advance humanity other than favoring education and openness
 FM> in general and even THAT is a tall order.
 
   I believe it always was a tall order, but in our century of whole
   population schooling, **some** bit more of knowing is "out there"
   to side glance the "all about". We have had to digest more in the
   last 90 years than was normally expected of the average bear. For
   5000 or so "progress" years, generations could share some common
   awareness pacing centuries. Now even in my own family there are
   already 3 extreme stratifications just in the last 50 years, I, a
   world different from my parents, my grandson beginning to live in
   a computer environment almost growing alien to me. Moving now
   toward 200 year+ lifetimes and "other epicals" the pace will even
   pick up more to perhaps a vertical curve .
 
   NOTE: My main point on the "Titanic" was the enormous leap
   between the older versions, and the new, in sheer sensual
   impact!
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               /^\   \ o o o o o o o / ... Dave
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