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echo: crossfire
to: Ed Hulett
from: Mimi Gallandt
date: 2008-10-27 09:03:14
subject: The liberal television

Ed Hulett -> Mimi Gallandt wrote:
 EH> Mimi Gallandt -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 MG>> Ed Hulett -> Bob Klahn wrote:
 EH>>> Bob Klahn -> Ed Hulett wrote:
 BK>>>> ..

 BK>>>>>>  No one is attacking Joe the plumber, they are
attacking McCain
 BK>>>>>>  for using Joe the plumber.

 EH>>>>> So, digging into Joe's life and reporting his tax lien and
 EH>>>>> lack of a plumber's license is attacking McCain? Do tell.

 BK>>>>  McCain is the one who puffed him up. He asked one question, got
 BK>>>>  his answer, whether he agreed with it or not, and seemed to be
 BK>>>>  quite content with the exchange. It's McCain who has drug it out
 BK>>>>  into the public arena.

 EH>>> Actually, he didn't get an answer. Obama made reference to Joe's
 EH> money
 EH>>> going to someone else who is not as fortunate. It isn't the job of
 EH>>> government to redistribute what they consider Joe's excess money to
 EH>>> someone else.

 EH>>> McCain didn't dig into Joe's life and make public private
 EH> information.

 MG>> Funny you should mention that:

 MG>> Government computers used to find information on Joe the Plumber
 MG>> Investigators trying to determine whether access was illegal
 MG>> Friday,  October 24, 2008 8:57 PM
 MG>> By Randy Ludlow

 MG>> The Columbus Dispatch
 MG>> "State and local officials are investigating if state and
 MG>> law-enforcement computer systems were illegally accessed when they
 EH> were
 MG>> tapped for personal information about "Joe the Plumber."

 MG>> Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher became part of the national political
 EH> lexicon
 MG>> Oct. 15 when Republican presidential candidate John McCain
 EH> mentioned him
 MG>> frequently during his final debate with Democrat Barack Obama.

 MG>> The 34-year-old from the Toledo suburb of Holland is held out by
 EH> McCain
 MG>> as an example of an American who would be harmed by Obama's tax
 EH> proposals.

 MG>> Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on
 MG>> Wurzelbacher's driver's license or his sport-utility vehicle was
 EH> pulled
 MG>> from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly
 MG>> after the debate.

 MG>> Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the
 MG>> office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County
 MG>> Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.

 MG>> It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct
 MG>> access to driver's license and vehicle registration information
 EH> from BMV
 MG>> computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government
 MG>> business.

 MG>> Paul Lindsay, Ohio spokesman for the McCain campaign, attempted to
 MG>> portray the inquiries as politically motivated. "It's outrageous to
 EH> see
 MG>> how quickly Barack Obama's allies would abuse government power in an
 MG>> attempt to smear a private citizen who dared to ask a legitimate
 MG>> question," he said.

 MG>> http://tinyurl.com/6l3xd2

 EH> Imagine that, the Obama campaign might have used government computers in
 EH> their haste to find dirt on Joe the plumber. Say it ain't so.

I wish I could say I'm shocked, but with this guy it's par for the course.


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