From: stumper 

Attila < wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:56:01 -0400, stumper  in
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>> Attila < wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:46:11 -0400, stumper
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>>> alt.abortion with message-id
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>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:47:08 -0400, stumper
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>>>>> alt.abortion with message-id
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>>>>>
>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:21:14 -0400, stumper
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Attila < wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:07:55 -0400,
stumper 
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ray Fischer wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> stumper 
 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> God does not have to have
any physical characteristics.
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's probably what it
means when they say "God is a spirit."
>>>>>>>>>>> I am always entertained when
people make assertions about the
nature
>>>>>>>>>>> of a supposedly infinite being
that they've never seen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> God is everything there ever was,
is, and will be.
>>>>>>>>> Prove any god is anything.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or even exists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does such God exist?
>>>>>>>>>> Is it even meaningful to ask
>>>>>>>>>> whether such God exists or not?
>>>>>>>>> It is always meaningful to ask if
anything exists.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God exists by definition
>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just like the universe.
>>>>>>> Still wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> How many modes of existence are you willing to accept?
>>>>> One.
>>>>>
>>>> That must be your head.
>>>> How about numbers?
>>>> How about ideas?
>>>> How about money?
>>>> How about your government?
>>> All irrelevant as far as the subject is concerned.
>>>
>>>> Have you heard of the kingdom of God?
>>> Prove any god exists.
>>>
>> What makes you think
>> you get to dictate
>> how God should exist?
>
> Existence is existence, and if something actually exists there should
> be proof of that existence.
>
>> How God should exist?
>>
>> Like a chair?
>> Like an animal?
>> Like a star?
>> Like a cloud?
>
> Yes.  And there is proof for all of those things.
>

What are clouds?
Can you count them?

How about these modes of existence.

Like a number.
Like a melody.
Like a word.
Like a language.
Like a memory.
Like my mind.
Like my self.
Like a society.
Like your government.

Are they all same or different?

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~Stumper

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