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to: George Vandervort
from: Philip Lozier
date: 2003-10-24 00:27:32
subject: September, 2003 Echolist

>>> Supporting my daughter after an attack.
 >>>
 >>> So, If the cops don't put me away for taking care of the
 >>> perp...I'll have t for other things...someday, maybe.
 JD>>
 JD>> Sorry to hear that.  I hope she is OK?

 GV> A bullet is to quick and to good for a scumbag like him..

 GV> I think a Baseball batt would provide you more satisfying
 GV> results.. :-))

Look at my post to Thom... no guns, no bats, no knives...

In New York, the level of self defense is weighed upon "reasonable
force", and the "concieved threat" of the other person... If
you have a J*ck As* that only threatens you with hands, before you
shoot/stab/club him, you cannot justify killing him.  NYS law provides that
you can use equal force to (and note this) "deter" the person...
so... in other words, a guy comes with a "BAT", you take the
bat... according to NYS law, you've removed the threat, and if the guy
comes at you with hands, you -may- be able to deter him *ONE* time, but if
you beat him after that, he becomes the victim, and you go to jail.  The
statutes only allow for reasonable force to deter the person, not to take
vengence (revenge) upon them, and you are only allowed to
hold them for the authorities.

It sounds stupid, but that's the way it is... it is much better to know
people (especialy those in law enforcement), and be able to act on their
advice, when they can't arrest. Makes you happy, and makes their job
easier, having not to deal with it.  Take it from somebody who know lives
150 miles away from New York City, but has NYPD relatives ;>

Phil

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