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>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:30:36 GMT, in
>>>>>>>>>> alt.politics.homosexuality
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>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> "Jeff North"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007
18:19:43 GMT, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
alt.politics.homosexuality "Patriot Games"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patriot Games wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"Jeff North"  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Gawd also condones child sex - Lott and his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lott
condoned, not God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can hear
the attorneys now... "Objection, Your Honor!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is a
matter of record that Lot was intoxicated, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not of
sound mind, nor in his right mind at the time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Further,
his condition -- again a matter of record --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was caused
by the juvenile delinquents (erm, daughters)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
question, whom deliberately and willfully took gross
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advantage
of his emotional despondency (not to mention
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his
person) for their own hedonistic purposes! Lot is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the victim
of this crime, not the perpetrator!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Apparently, His Honor, agreed, for Lot did not die as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result of
engaging in incest; As mandated in Leviticus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show where
Lott committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Go ask your preacher
to finish the story of S&G for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You can't show where Lott
committed incest....
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahahhaha!!!
>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=1&chapter=19&version=9
>>>>>>>>>> 31And the firstborn said unto the
younger, Our father is old,
>>>>>>>>>> and there is not a man in the
earth to come in unto us after
>>>>>>>>>> the manner of all the earth:
>>>>>>>>>> 32Come, let us make our father
drink wine, and we will lie
>>>>>>>>>> with him, that we may preserve
seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>> 33And they made their father drink
wine that night: and the
>>>>>>>>>> firstborn went in, and lay with
her father; and he perceived
>>>>>>>>>> not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
>>>>>>>>>> 34And it came to pass on the
morrow, that the firstborn said
>>>>>>>>>> unto the younger, Behold, I lay
yesternight with my father:
>>>>>>>>>> let us make him drink wine this
night also; and go thou in,
>>>>>>>>>> and lie with him, that we may
preserve seed of our father.
>>>>>>>>>> 35And they made their father drink
wine that night also: and
>>>>>>>>>> the younger arose, and lay with
him; and he perceived not
>>>>>>>>>> when she lay down, nor when she arose.
>>>>>>>>>> 36Thus were both the daughters of
Lot with child by their
>>>>>>>>>> father. 37And the first born bare
a son, and called his name
>>>>>>>>>> Moab: the same is the father of
the Moabites unto this day.
>>>>>>>>>> 38And the younger, she also bare a
son, and called his name
>>>>>>>>>> Benammi: the same is the father of
the children of Ammon unto
>>>>>>>>>> this day.
>>>>>>>>> "...and he perceived not when she
lay down, nor when she
>>>>>>>>> arose...." He was raped.  While
unconscious.
>>>>>>>> Think about the story for a moment... 
There he was, drunk on
>>>>>>>> his ass, unconscious, or at most
semi-conscious, yet this guy,
>>>>>>>> at least middle age and probably older
given that the average
>>>>>>>> lifespan was 45 or 50, was able to achieve
and maintain an
>>>>>>>> errection long enough for his daughters to rape him.
>>>>>>> So the story goes...
>>>>>>>> The entire story is so cockamamie that
it's laughable.
>>>>>>> Yep, but there it is....
>>>>>>> I didn't write it...
>>>>>> You just believe it is something more than a fairytale.
>>>>> Yep, more than a fairytale.
>>>> Not really, that's all it is.
>>> Your opinion.
>> Not really, just poking at the logical flaws in the tale is pretty
>> conclusive proof that it was either made up, or based very, and I
>> stress, very loosely on something that may have happened.   Either
>> way, a fable, or fairytale.
>
> Your opinion of logical flaws (which you actually failed to mention)
> isn't proof and certainly isn't conclusive proof....

I have mentioned them, you just can't honestly address them.

As you are obviously slow, I will repeat:

"Think about the story for a moment...  There he was, drunk on his
ass, unconscious, or at most semi-conscious, yet this guy, at least middle
age and probably older given that the average lifespan was 45 or 50, was
able to achieve and maintain an  errection long enough for his daughters to
rape him."

Can you offer an actual rebuttal, based in something other than handwaving?




>
>>> Thanks for sharing....
>> No problem, let me know if I can educate you further.
>
> Oh, you already started?

Yes, but you are an exceptionally slow student.

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