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to: Earl Croasmun
from: Bob Klahn
date: 2008-11-23 02:31:00
subject: The price of oil... a

~>>  BK>>  She said DVD's can't be erased. Some can, which makes her
~>>  BK>>  statement false.

~>>  RC> Splitting hairs..

~>>  RC> DVD's cant be erasd unless they are re-writable..

~>>  IOW, *SOME* DVDs can be erased. Saying DVDs can't be erased
~>>  means no DVD can be erased. Logic 101.

 EC> So the person who taught you logic taught you that you
 EC> should insert the word "all" into sentences when the person
 EC> uttering the sentence doesn't say "all?"  Ha ha ha!

 Equals may be substituted for equals in any expression. An
 economist would have learned that in basic algebra. It is also
 taught in logic.

 Saying DVDs cannot be erased *MEANS* no DVD can be erased. Which
 is the same as *ALL* DVDs cannot be erased. So, you can
 substitute either of those in the sentence.

 If you don't understand that don't even try to convince anyone
 that you are an economist.

 EC> Gee, you had a good opening to respond to Ross, and you
 EC> missed it!  You could have said "'Splitting hairs?'  No,

 You really don't understand basic language, as well as basic
 math. Saying you are splitting hairs is saying you are splitting
 some hairs. Saying you are not splitting hairs is saying you are
 not splitting any hairs. Understand the difference?

 If you do not split hairs you split no hairs.

 If you split hairs you split *SOME* hairs.

 EC> Ross, I AM NOT 'splitting hairs,' because I am not
 EC> splitting ALL hairs.  As long as one hair is left unsplit,
 EC> you are wrong."

 If one hair is split you are splitting hairs. If you are not
 splitting hairs then no hairs are split.

 If DVDs cannot be erased, then no DVDs can be erased.

 Some DVDs cannot be erased. Some DVDs can be erased.

 If Earl cannot speak without raising strawmen. Then Earl raises
 strawmen every time he speaks.

 If Earl speaks when he raises straw men then it is possible that
 he does speak without raising strawmen, but that is not a given.

 In the case of Earl it's not even likely, but that's not a
 matter of grammer or logic, but observation.

 EC> Klahn Logic is really strange.

 Klahn logic is accurate. Earl logic is a lie.

 EC> When someone looks up in the sky and comments that "birds
 EC> are flying in this direction," do you run screaming at the
 EC> thought that ALL birds that exist are flying toward you?

 If someone says, the birds are not flying in your direction, do
 you expect some birds to be flying in your direction?

 If you turn and shoot at the birds that are not flying in your
 direction you are qualified to hunt with Dick Cheney.



BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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