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to: duke
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date: 2007-03-27 18:52:46
subject: Re: Roman Catholicism vs. The Bible

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On Mar 27, 3:55 am, duke  wrote:
> Does this mean that a disciple of Christ would not be a Muslim?

I hope that you're not serious.

> Luke 14:26 (New International Version)
> 26"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife
and
> children, his brothers and sisters-yes, even his own life-he cannot be my
> disciple.
>
> Did Jesus agree with you on that?

Hope so (since He's the one who said it).

> We're taught that's a translation problem.

Who's "we"?

> As a student, the Chrisitian disciple's knowledge and beliefs grow as he
grows.
> He starts as a mere babe in arms to possibly a great leader in old age.

Babe in Christ, yes.  "Babe in arms" - not quite.

> Absolutely almost correct.  Jesus judges us at the moment of our death.   Mat
> 25:31-46.

That Scripture is talking about the Judgement - not "the moment of our
death".

> We don't know.  Mat 25:31-46.

Aga, that Scripture is talking about the Judgement, it has nothing to do
with who are the saved elect.  The Word outlines what man must do to be
saved and the Word is Truth.  If you can't rely on the Truth - what can you
rely on?  Cathechism?  I think not.

> >There are too many salvation plans in play today that are not
> >Biblical.  For example, "Accept Jesus as your personal
Saviour."  The
> >Bible does not say that, people say that.
>
> Neither does the bible say that we can know if we are saved.

Oh, really?

Try this Scripture: Acts 16:28-31
"But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we
are all here.  Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came
trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, and brought them out, and
said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord
Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

And this one: Romans 10:9
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt
believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt
be saved."

Last time I checked both of those verses came from the Bible. So, once
again, if you can't believe the Word of Truth, what can you believe?  Maybe
Catholicsm teaches that you can't know for sure if you are saved, but
that's not what the Word of God teaches.

> A supper, but not a last.

"Last Supper" is a misnomer borne out of anti-Semitism.  It
should be called  "The Last Seder of Jesus".

 > ???  He instituted the Holy Eucharist here.

No, He used the Seder as an example for what His blood sacrifice signified
by what the Disciples already knew with something they did on a regular
basis.

> I can't speak for protest_ants, but Catholic definitely worship God.

And you can't speak for all Catholics either.

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